No such thing... I love bimmers, my buddy Meng just got a 330i twin turbo 6speed, gunmetalish (like the middle one in the front row) with the red leather (like the middle one in the front row lol)... SO NICE!
I like pretty much all the cars in that pic though lol
335i not 330i.Originally Posted by Brian*
lol! Equal innnn....braking and cornering? How about interior comfort?
Stock for stock I bet I'll outrun a T/A on a road course in an e36 m3/4/5 with passengers and luggage...
As far as I know, f-bodies have been known to do exceptionally well in SCCA runs around here. My buddy's dad has trophies all over his shop from SCCA for first place, and he has a '95 Camaro Z28 with lowering springs and wider wheels. The same friend has a '98 Camaro SS himself with just SLP suspension and a set of wide wheels, and he scares me pretty good in the twisties.
Not saying the M3 would lose by any means because that's what they're for, but I don't think F-bodies do as bad as people think.
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
You're right, i've seen some crazy good times coming from f-bodies at Road Atlanta.
They scare me at 45mph, during normal driving. Hell, they scare me sitting still...they're so uncomfortable and unconventional. The dash is large enough to play a few rounds of golf on and i'm 6'3"+ and still can't see the front of the car, lol! Some people love them though! Are they like the Corvettes where you have to open the doors and hatch before raising them on a lift or jacking them up? lol, way to go GM!
I'm 5'10" and can see perfect with a gangster lean!!
lol. I've driven with 17x9(f) 17x11(r) wheels and 15x4(f) 15x8(r) wheels and it seems to still drive well, haven't had a scare yet. I could deal with LS1 brakes though
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
I do agree about comfort! I rode in one all the way to south Florida and didn't think I was going to be able to walk when I got out lolol
andddddd, the dash is hard to see over
F-bodies do well in their own respect because they have ass loads of low end torque, 315's go on like cake all the way around and some fat brakes can easily be bought for dirt cheap. More tire = more contact patch, more grip, more surface to brake and yes, just shit loads of grip. Throw 315's and 300wt at 2500 rpms in any slightly sporty BMW or what not with some fender work and watch what happens. BMW's and other small sports cars like Miata's, Old Porsche's, old Z cars etc. etc are simply amazing because they can keep up with Vette's and other car that run a "similar" tire/wheel set up as a properly set up F body with half the tire, less power, less brakes with such a connected driving experience.
Don't believe me? The new 6.2 liter Camaro has an extremely modern suspension system, much wider tires, bigger brakes, more power and gobs more torque then the current M3, yet lapped the ring about 20 seconds slower and 30 seconds slower then the outgoing E46 CSL. To top it off it's hardly heavier then the E92.
Then again, they were designed to do that....take a BMW dragging and watch what happens, unless big money was spent.
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