new whip (non import) fucc

sigh... u joined the darkside... LOL congrats man! have fun with it... with the right work put into it, those things can be beastly!

my brother doin great things now
AND Accept No Defeat lol fag its we takin ova

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Originally Posted by jadakid88

just let it go, this man is speaking from experience.

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You must think I'm some sort of n00b. What makes you think I don't have any experience?

this is me normally(yes i know that im still ugly)
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...rchaircopy.jpg


this is me after i wreaked my srt4
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...eneonwreak.jpg

THATS GAWD DAMN EXPERIENCE. READING SHIT ON THE INTERNET ISNT FUCKIN EXPERIENCE.

you have never owned a SRT4, i have. you are not on srtforums to read about somebody wreaking their car everyday cause of the rear end sliding out, i am.

all im doing is passing on some knowledge that i have about that car i learned in the 2 years i owned mine. all im trying to do is help but you wanna debate on how he shouldnt upgrade his suspension to make the car safer. that is what you are doing right? trying to e-fight cause i said he should upgrade his suspension to make it safer. thats so selfish, youd rather win an e-battle but this man doesnt learn that his car has a tendency for the ass to slide out and learn what he can do to make it safer. thats fucked up.

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Originally Posted by CH@Dbee

this is me normally(yes i know that im still ugly)
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...rchaircopy.jpg


this is me after i wreaked my srt4
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...eneonwreak.jpg

THATS GAWD DAMN EXPERIENCE. READING SHIT ON THE INTERNET ISNT FUCKIN EXPERIENCE.

you have never owned a SRT4, i have. you are not on srtforums to read about somebody wreaking their car everyday cause of the rear end sliding out, i am.

all im doing is passing on some knowledge that i have about that car i learned in the 2 years i owned mine. all im trying to do is help but you wanna debate on how he shouldnt upgrade his suspension to make the car safer. that is what you are doing right? trying to e-fight cause i said he should upgrade his suspension to make it safer. thats so selfish, youd rather win an e-battle but this man doesnt learn that his car has a tendency for the ass to slide out and learn what he can do to make it safer. thats fucked up.

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X2 on everything this man has said and coilovers > lowering springs if i could i would go the other route but i was being cheap and they were a gift and if you think that the stock suspension is better then one with a coilover setup then go onto srtforums and read up there is almost one weekly on people wreaking there car cause the ass end came out on them now i will add that lowering a acr is not the same a a regular srt being that have a little different anyways good pick up have fun modding and let us know how everything turns out :goodjob:

^^will do

^^Actually, it's no e battle, pimp. My car has the same tendency for the tail end to come out as yours. The only difference like I said is suspension settings. I told you that the rear is set up for getting slightly loose which is good for experienced drivers who know how to deal with counter steer and throttle control. Those who don't know how to deal with those challenges crash trying to hang with their friends in faster cars. All I was saying is that if you change your toe to positive (.25 total) on the rear and get the camber kit and adjust the camber to about -1.5 degrees then that will reduce your chance of having the rear end come out on you due to hitting the brake or letting off the gas in the middle of a corner.

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Originally Posted by blackshine007

^^Actually, it's no e battle, pimp. My car has the same tendency for the tail end to come out as yours. The only difference like I said is suspension settings. I told you that the rear is set up for getting slightly loose which is good for experienced drivers who know how to deal with counter steer and throttle control. Those who don't know how to deal with those challenges crash trying to hang with their friends in faster cars. All I was saying is that if you change your toe to positive (.25 total) on the rear and get the camber kit and adjust the camber to about -1.5 degrees then that will reduce your chance of having the rear end come out on you due to hitting the brake or letting off the gas in the middle of a corner.

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you say dont touch the factory suspension here...

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Originally Posted by blackshine007

Les, don't touch that suspension. That's an ACR. The suspension is already set up. Lowering it will only make it handle worse. You lower a regular SRT. You don't lower an ACR. The car looks good the way it is and you don't need anyone who drives a car with known CV axle issues (after lowering, of course) telling you to lower it to please them.

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i say just buy coilovers, take the car for a proper alignment, install sway bars and strut tower bars to help prevent the car from reacting the way its prone too if he does let off the throttle in the middle of a corner.

in the end he will do what he wants, so im done with this thread.

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Originally Posted by CH@Dbee

you say dont touch the factory suspension here...

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I said don't touch as in get rid of the shocks and springs. I never said anything about not touching the toe and camber. Almost every car has an adjustable suspension to an extent. But if he decides to waste his money buying coilovers because of willingness to reset the stock suspension to better suite his driving habits, then so be it. An alignment to different specs is the way to having a nuetral(sp?) handling car. Maybe you can get away with setting the car up to stock Neon specs since you don't hear of the same thing happening to them.