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    Default My dune buggy project

    i got this a couple of months ago. i had a old RHD mail jeep i traded a guy straight up for. it runs good but all the light dont work and the whole front brake assembly is gone. for now i plan to get all the light done and brakes and clean up the motor and alittle more secret stuff..

    but anyway here are the pic's

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    all comments are welcomed

    thanks for looking
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    u should put that V8 motor fron ur other thread in that, that thing would hual balls.

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    well that would be a much harder project i already had alot of the stuff to drop it in my s10 so yeah lol

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    Aircooled VW engine?

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    Damn that looks like entirely too much fun.

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    Needs paint! Looks like Christmas on Wheels.......lol Still cool though, and very fun to drive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jecht
    Aircooled VW engine?
    yes indeed. putting out almost 70hp... yep i know it a beast

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    the first time i drove it was also the first time i found out it had no brakes. i found out real fast. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAOne
    the first time i drove it was also the first time i found out it had no brakes. i found out real fast. lol

    i let you drive it why do i not remember this

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    Quote Originally Posted by jew_boy
    i let you drive it why do i not remember this
    when you first got it. everyone did. i only went down to the entrance of east point and turned around.


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    still dont remember that

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    put a sti motor in da back!!! shyt would FLY

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    Hell yeah dude...**** is gangsta!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgEvan
    I'm gonna punch you in the deeck.
    yeah my dune buggy is better than your datsun

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    Quote Originally Posted by jew_boy
    yes indeed. putting out almost 70hp... yep i know it a beast
    70 hp? Thats alot coming from a VW air cooled engine. must be stroked bored out and a big cam with the stock one barrel carb.
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    sure as hell beats chris' dune buggy thing HAHA


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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMBrian
    70 hp? Thats alot coming from a VW air cooled engine. must be stroked bored out and a big cam with the stock one barrel carb.
    i just throw a number out there i know nothing about this motor im pretty sure it completely stock

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    Those things are a blast of road. They take the hills like nobodys business.

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    my dad back in the day had a DD like that lol!! street legal Go-carts FTW!!!


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    if its a stock 1600cc its more like 30 hp but it will climb anything. please paint it one color

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    yeah it fun as hell not drove it that much seeing that the brake suck but when i always do i never leave or enter in my drive way, i have like a big ditch as you can see in the back or the pic


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearlwhitesh
    if its a stock 1600cc its more like 30 hp but it will climb anything. please paint it one color
    whats the fun in one color

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    I would dd that would be sweet. Maybe with some other colors... lol

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    if i ever get it completely done then it will be a DD

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    lol @ the headers. it looks like a pyramid lmaooooo

    but thats sick as ****. i want oneeee
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    yeah i plan to take them off and sand them down and paint them and get a new pipe up top

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    keep them dude. polish dem bishesss
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    Who did you pick it up from? Parts of it look like my old buggy i sold on here a few years back.

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    I'm surprised they're street legal to be a dd? I was joking, but if you really could that would be sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by green91
    Who did you pick it up from? Parts of it look like my old buggy i sold on here a few years back.
    i got it from a guy in near Selma, AL

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    If it is a 1600 dual port then your looking @ 50-60 hp. I use to build those and raced rails for many years. Heck we built probably 100 Ghia's and more than 30-40 bus motors and I couldn't count the rails we played with. I was so deep into the rail riders I drove one to work for a few years. You don't need a lot of power for those to ride a good wheelie.

    You can build a nice one fairly reasonably but make sure to research single and dual port before sinking money into a VW engine. Both have their advantages and disadvantages.

    The 1302S will range from 47-54 bhp, and the 1303S will fall between 58-65 bhp.

    Here is a little additional; info that may help you.

    The VW Beetle engine originally used three different-sized Solex carburetors to suit different engine sizes, and each size has several variations, so let's look at them.

    Note: It is important that you know the model of your carburetor, as adjusting details vary somewhat from model to model. The carburetor model is stamped on the bowl on the left side of the carburetor.

    Until 1972 the Type 2 (Bus/Kombi) also used the engines noted below, and in fact they got the larger size engines before the Beetle did. So the same carburetor types were used on the same engine when used in a Type 2, although they were often jetted a little differently to cope with the increased weight of the Type 2 vehicle.


    The 28PCI, 28PICT and 28PICT/1 Carburetors were used on the 36 and 40hp 1200cc engines from 1951 to 1965. These have a 22.5mm venturi (throat), which provides airflow characteristics which suit the 1200cc engine size. These carburetors are no longer made, but can be replaced by the slightly larger modern replacement Brosol H30/31 (see below), which will provide a small increase in hp for the 1200cc engine.


    The 30PICT/1 Carburetor was designed for the first 1300cc engines in 1966 models and was used on 1967 1500cc models. Then came the 30PICT/2 in 1968/1969 for the 1300/1500cc engines and the 30PICT/3 for the US-only 1970 1600cc single-port engine. These all have the same sized venturi (24mm), which allows a larger airflow than the earlier 28 series - which suits the larger capacities better. The /1, /2 and /3 30PICTs have increasingly complicated fuel circuits for better mixture control. Any of the 30 series (30PICT/1, 30PICT/2, 30PICT/3 and modern replacement H30/31) will work fine with the 1500cc and 1600cc engines.

    Later twin-port 1300s (after 1971) have a 31PICT/3 Carburetor, which has a 25.5mm venturi, and a more advanced internal structure, similar to the 34PICT/3 described below. All these 30 and 31 series carburetors ( 1200cc, 1300cc, 1500cc, and 1600cc engines) can be replaced by the modern equivalent Brosol H30/31, so long as it is jetted to suit the engine size (airflow). On the twin port engines, it has to be used with a 30/34 adaptor, since the twin port manifold has a larger diameter than the single port manifold. (The H30/31 designation comes from the fact that this carburetor is a direct replacement for both the 30-series (with a 24mm throat) and the 31-series (25.5mm throat) used on the post-1971 1300s in Europe etc.

    Some of the 30PICT carburetors (especially the 1970 30PICT/3 and the modern H30/31) were/are jetted super-lean for emissions reasons (I've seen the main jet as small as 112.5). Lean jetting makes them hard to keep in tune -- manageable when the engine was new and tight, but becomes a problem when the engine and carburetor age, get the occasional leak, and so on. When using the H30/31 on a 1600cc single-port engine with a vacuum distributor, try a 55 idle jet, 125 main jet and 125 or 130 air correction jet. Leave the 65 power jet (right side) as-is - that's about the right size.

    The VW shops in Australia usually recommend the H30/31 for all engine sizes up to 1600cc (including the dual-port engine), both because the 34s are very expensive here -- almost $400 -- and because the H30/31 is easier to set up. The H30/31 also tolerates the 009 distributor better than the 34 sized carburetor -- less likelihood of flat spots. The H30/31 carburetor has a throat only a mm or so smaller than the 34 anyway, so you should not see any significant drop in power around town (compared to the larger 34) -- it would probably run out of breath a little sooner at high speed and that's about it.

    The development of the 30/31 carburetors is interesting... the 30PICT series has a 24mm throat, and it's final development was the 30PICT/3 used in the 1970 1600 single-port engine (in the USA). It was working VERY hard with that engine size, so in 1971 when the 1300cc dual port came out in Australia and Europe, they developed a carburetor with a slightly larger 25.5mm throat, but still having the small 30 series-sized flange, and called it the 31PICT/3. So the modern H30/31 is in fact really a copy of the 31PICT carburetor -- they have included the "30" in the model number (H30/31) to show that it replaces both the 30 and 31 series carburetors.

    You can't buy a brand new 30PICT/2 carburetor, but you can buy a brand new H30/31 model, which is the replacement carburetor for all the 28 and 30 series. It has a fractionally larger throat but he same inlet manifold fitting, so you'd get a tiny increase in hp and would probably get a corresponding tiny reduction in fuel economy. The 30PICT/2 is one of the most reliable carbs Solex ever made, and it matches the 1500/1600cc single-port engines very well.


    The 34PICT/3 and the California-only 34PICT/4 Carburetors have a larger 26mm venturi, which allows the 1600cc dual-port engine to breath better for increased horsepower. These carburetors have more complex fuel metering which allows the carburetor to run a little leaner for emissions reasons. These leaner settings also make the engine harder to tune as it ages (the VW engine really likes to run a little rich), and so sometimes changes to the fuel jets are needed. Two replacement 34PICT/3 carburetors that are available the Bocar and the Pierburg. The new Bocar carburetors almost always have very lean jetting which may need alteration. The Pierburg carburetors come with an X130 main jet and a 50 idle jet.

    Note: You cannot use the larger 34PICT/3 carburetor on a single-port engine - the flange on the 34PICT/3 is too large for the single-port manifold. I don't think you can use a 30/34 adaptor upside down to fit the larger carburetor on the smaller manifold.

    In summary, there are three replacement carburetors available today -- the Brosol H30/31, the Bocar 34PICT/3, and the Pierburg 34 PICT/3:


    The Brosol H30/31 replaces the 28 series, the 30 series and the 31 series, and can be used (with different jetting) on 1200, 1300, 1500 and 1600 engines (either single port or dual port). It's just about at it's limits with a 1600, and so it loses a few hp compared to the larger 34PICT/3 carburetor, but still works well with this engine size. The H30/31 flange fits the single port inlet manifold, and the 1300 twin port manifold ('71+ 1300s). It can also be used on the larger 1600 twin-port inlet manifold with a 30/34 adaptor, so it's quite a versatile carburetor.


    The larger 34PICT/3 carburetor is used on 1600 twin-port engines and provides slightly better horsepower than the same engine with a smaller H30/31. It can also be used on slightly larger capacities like the 1641 (87mm cylinders) and 1776 (90.5mm cylinders). Bigger than this and the engine will be under-carbed, limiting any gain from the larger capacity.

    Note: In Australia the preferred replacement seems to be the Brosol H30/31, rather than the 34PICT/3. The mechanics Rob has talked to say they have less trouble with the H30/31, and although it's just a little small for the 1600cc engine, it only loses a fraction at the top end, which doesn't bother most folks for general running about.


    The Pierburg 34PICT/3 carburetor is designed for 1971 dp and newer upright engines. These have the accelerator pump linkage that clears the alternator, unlike the Brazilian carb that requires alternator grinding. The Pierburg models are supposed to have much better casting quality, machining, and almost zero defect compared to other units. They also have the proper port for SVDA or other vacuum advance distributors. The Pierburg carburetor comes with an X130 main jet and a 50 idle jet, as well as a new choke and idle shut off valve. The choke and mixture need to be adjusted after installation, of course.
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    i really dont feel like reading all that at this time maybe later lol

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    nice project

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    thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by jew_boy
    i really dont feel like reading all that at this time maybe later lol
    LOL I did, BugMan posted some good info. Just read it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DunDunSkeert
    buy me the motor ill be happy to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jew_boy
    buy me the motor ill be happy to do it

    Sure, this all I got though. I'm fresh out of real money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DunDunSkeert
    Sure, this all I got though. I'm fresh out of real money.

    well then hit me up when you get payed

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