Tom Coronel (Zakspeed FTMFW)
History Lessons.
Zakspeed Vipers: 3x Nurburgring 24 Hour Winner!
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Tom Coronel (Zakspeed FTMFW)
History Lessons.
Zakspeed Vipers: 3x Nurburgring 24 Hour Winner!
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love vipers but they are made ****ty
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			
			
				so was this a stock ACR?
Motor Trend quote "Stock ACR specification with Hardcore Package"Originally Posted by HypnoToad
With that wing, yeah, that is the Hardcore package.
all this Zr1 and gtr talk, everyone forgot about the ole ACR! Nice post!
Damn right.Originally Posted by JITB
JITB, i gotta admit. Anyone that calls you a GTR nut swinger is stupid. You got that common sense.
Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
BUT I AM!![]()
Ring Bomb of the Day: Dodge Viper ACR laps 'Ring in record 7:22.1 [w/VIDEO] "Yes!"Originally Posted by c0l7hy
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				I want!!!!!!!
One Big Ass Mistake America
That's an impressive time no doubt.
Props to them...thanks for sharing.![]()
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				Out of the 3 I say its the most "all out." I wander what it laps on street tires, apparently the "hardcore package" comes with race tires. GTR's lap times on street or race tires? If I was to buy 1 of the 3 it would probably be the viper.... Just look at it. I must say Dodge really stepped up the interior on the new vipers. That was the biggest turn off with the old ones.
Isn't that faster then the ZR-1?
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			
			
				yep and cheaperOriginally Posted by IndianStig
Originally Posted by HypnoToad
+1 for you being a GM owner and telling the truth.
+1 to Mopar for being my Detroit Choice
The issue on the other forums has been the tires and ....the splitterOriginally Posted by josh green
But here is what Michelin say about their tire.Originally Posted by Muzaffar Musa
Street Legal, Competition Ready. A DOT-approved competition tire, the Michelin® Pilot® Sport Cup tire offers extreme cornering grip and consistent lap times.
Features and Benefits
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Consistent Performance — Lap After Lap
A race-inspired tread compound results in enduring performance characteristics in both wet and dry conditions, with consistent lap times over the entire life of the tire.
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Powerful Performance Cornering
An asymmetric tread design utilizes a semislick outer tread and a wet-styled inner tread design to help deliver powerful wet and dry cornering, promoting high performance confidence.
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Race-Like Reflexes
The high-tensile steel cords and polyamide belt package help provide enormous support for the tread and crown areas for consistently powerful cornering capability and quick steering responses.
DOT Quality Grades (UTQG Ratings)
Treadwear Grade 80 <--------![]()
Traction Grade AA
Temperature Grade A
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			
			
				hmmm
80 is a little more than a pure track compound. That some hell grip.Originally Posted by HypnoToad
Those are some really good pictures. That car looks amazing.
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			
			
				yea,i dont like this.........but hey.guess we will have to wait to see some real ZR1 vs ACROriginally Posted by EJ25RUN
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				Could you imagine navigating 8.4litres of fury around that track w/o any electronics. I am sure that wing is more than needed.
After watching the video he could possibly shave a second or so off from the misshifts, but that car is badass. Another lap in the car he could definitely be in the 7:20.8 range. I hope this car is on GT5.
edit: lol, I am getting confused between the 3 threads.
Last edited by josh green; 08-29-2008 at 11:32 AM.
In the 10 minutes I spent in one, it was surprisingly easy to drive.
No idea how it performs at its limits though.
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				Your are wrong about the price of the ZR1. The mark up is crazy high on that car not sure on the ACR. I think Mr.Kidd did a thread on the mark up a few weeks ago.Originally Posted by AnthonyF
**Found it****
TO ALL THE ZR1 LOVERS! LOL@ PRICETAG
My current vehicles![]()
04 A4 GTO
02 A Camry
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				I would drive the hell out of the Viper and probably kill myself in the process....it's just a beast of a car.
I love the stripe, makes it look evil. Which is more than appropriate.
Lol can you say bragging?Originally Posted by AnthonyF
Exactly. People keep bringing price into the mix like it's going to effect their decision on which one they're going to buy, lulz. ACR ftw all day. ZR1 killa suckas!Originally Posted by AnthonyF
I have to admit, I adore the way that viper looks - freakin SICK.
Forget the ZR1, I'd take one of these anyday. Beast of a motor, monster of a car!
Technically speaking the ZR1 is 99k-105 MSRP. Pretty close to the Viper, but I doubt you can find either of em without markup.
This WILL CHANGE - as the "omfg look its the new ZR1/ACR" factor wears off, the prices will go down.
Has the FGT been on the ring yet? Wonder how it did.
For that matter I wonder how the Z06 would do with real tires on it.
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			
			
				well dont put down the vette,without it thier would be no viper...........i love having both cars in the automotive world
					
				
			
			 
			
				lol @ acr not having any markup....
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
						
					
				
			
			 
			
				great pics. Vipers are not to be taken lightly. By the opposition or their drivers.
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