Mugen Civic RR

[josh green]

I like it, its very aggressive looking. Its extremely fast around a track, 240hp from the k20a. For $40k its not just a civic. Most of the blasphemous remarks being made are from people who believe that awd and turbocharging is the only way to make a fast car. 1:06 around Tsukuba is beating your beloved Evos and STI's, stock for stock. Hell the fully gutted Time Attack cars in the fwd class are running around 1:03 around tsukuba. Some people just dont like honda b/c they dont have 5 RWD cars in each lineup. For $40k i would probably rather have a 135i or something but its still a respectable car.

[carbon_crash]

i like the RR, just the tag is way too high! I might be able to understand 35-38K if it was boosted!

[J-ROCK]

damn i would love to have one! i proably would spend 50k to! lol

[rsxtype-svi]

nice......but besides the RHD, whats the difference between that one and the Mugen Civic sitting outside gwinnett place honda? Those go for around $30,000, but i just wanna know the major differences

[bigdare23]

I like it, its very aggressive looking. Its extremely fast around a track, 240hp from the k20a. For $40k its not just a civic. Most of the blasphemous remarks being made are from people who believe that awd and turbocharging is the only way to make a fast car. 1:06 around Tsukuba is beating your beloved Evos and STI's, stock for stock. Hell the fully gutted Time Attack cars in the fwd class are running around 1:03 around tsukuba. Some people just dont like honda b/c they dont have 5 RWD cars in each lineup. For $40k i would probably rather have a 135i or something but its still a respectable car.

reps

i like the RR, just the tag is way too high! I might be able to understand 35-38K if it was boosted!

did you even read the post above ya?

Boost is actually the "cheap" way to make power. N/A power takes more R&D therefor most of the time costs more.

[carbon_crash]

^^ yeah I read the post, there is more potential for higher HP #s with boost than NA. If it was built for boost and then boosted it would be worth the price

[d_day87]

i like it, and aren't 626's fwd?

[bigdare23]

^^ yeah I read the post, there is more potential for higher HP #s with boost than NA. If it was built for boost and then boosted it would be worth the price

You gotta realize what the purpose of the Mugen cars. You will never see a turbo (with the exception of the 3rd gen civic/1st gen crx) or 500-600hp car from mugen because that power is only good in straight lines. Mugen cars are designed for the track not strip. Plus, massive hp would decrease the overall performance of this car because it would be more difficult to drive (on the track). This 240hp car will whoop up on many cars with more hp on the track due to R&D. When you take a car that's near perfect from the factory (civic type r) and make it better your going to expect to get paid. So I say the price is fair for the car (and the people that were on the waiting list would agree also).


Check out this video

Civic Type R vs Civic Type RR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrS7Y...eature=related

[The Ninja]

Ricetastic piece of ****.

[Frög]

50k Buahahhahahahah... BUAHAHAHAH!!! ricer guaranteed to be laughed at and will never get you laid.. seriously, people that don't know will point and laugh if they even recognize it from the other 56,198,169,781,848,418,463,294,692,195,276,295,197 ,991,529,721,967,219,841,687,414 civics out there...

this is what happens when asians smoke crack..

[josh green]

50k Buahahhahahahah... BUAHAHAHAH!!! ricer guaranteed to be laughed at and will never get you laid.. seriously, people that don't know will point and laugh if they even recognize it from the other 56,198,169,781,848,418,463,294,692,195,276,295,197 ,991,529,721,967,219,841,687,414 civics out there...

this is what happens when asians smoke crack..

Thats only if you really care what some idiot that doesnt know any better thinks.....

[R3RUN]

...says the kid with the protege lmfao

Ummm, what?

get over yourself man we are all car enthusiast people drive what they want.

I never said my car was better or that I was better than anyone else. I realize everyone is free to drive what they want, never said they couldn't.

You are supposed to be able to appreciate other peoples hard work, not turn your nose in the air bc you think yours is better

I do appreciate the hard work that the people at Honda put into the car, but charging 50k for a civic is ridiculous. And again, I never said my car was better.

[R3RUN]

I might add an orange protege

Is this supposed to be an insult?

[Frög]

Thats only if you really care what some idiot that doesnt know any better thinks.....

well:
its not like your buying it for performance, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying it for styling, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying it for luxury, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying it for status, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying it for any good reason other than to be a honda fan boy, wait, you can get alot better for 50k..

[R3RUN]

well:
its not like your buying it for performance, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying for styling, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like you buying for luxury, you can get alot better for 50k..
its not like your buying it for any good reason than to be a honda fan boy, wait you can get alot better for 50k..

True story.

[Frög]

I hate to be cliche(sp?) but thats like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH QFFT!!!

[R3RUN]

Other cars that could be had with your 50k:

Used C6 Vette (less than 8k miles)


Used 996


Used M Coupe


Shelby GT500



Other notables:
335i
E46 M3
C5 Z06
Older Vipers
etc.

All of above > civic and its brethren

[Frög]

^^ sick list of cars.. but the options are infinite..

[TypeRPersonality]

Stop saying 50k, the price tag was only 40k! And all 300 cars were reserved in 10 minutes.

Instead of competing in the rwd world. Mugen took a car and made it the best in fwd world. It is not a regular Civic that has been modified, or even an Si, it's a modified TYPE R, which has always held a much higher price tag anyways.

The blue Mugen Si over here is a joke, but this Mugen RR is bada*s.
They even have an experimental spec RR which is rated at 260bhp.

[Frög]

Stop saying 50k, the price tag was only 40k! And all 300 cars were reserved in 10 minutes.

Instead of competing in the rwd world. Mugen took a car and made it the best in fwd world. It is not a regular Civic that has been modified, or even an Si, it's a modified TYPE R, which has always held a much higher price tag anyways.

The blue Mugen Si over here is a joke, but this Mugen RR is bada*s.
They even have an experimental spec RR which is rated at 260bhp.

260??>?!!?!?!?>!>!{!}!)($#@%^*&(!%(*!?>@!$#%)(*$#^ !(*!$@#?>

omghaxors

[R3RUN]

Stop saying 50k, the price tag was only 40k! And all 300 cars were reserved in 10 minutes.

Hannah Montanna tickets sell out in under a minute. Does that mean its worth paying $90 bucks to go see her? No.

Instead of competing in the rwd world. Mugen took a car and made it the best in fwd world. It is not a regular Civic that has been modified, or even an Si, it's a modified TYPE R, which has always held a much higher price tag anyways.

Best fwd in the world? Thats quite a claim.

The blue Mugen Si over here is a joke, but this Mugen RR is bada*s.
They even have an experimental spec RR which is rated at 260bhp.

HOLY BAJEEBUS BREAK OUT THE RECORD BOOKS!!!11!!!!1!!1

[cactusEG]

Looks good, except for the wing and tail lights...

[TypeRPersonality]

Hannah Montanna tickets sell out in under a minute. Does that mean its worth paying $90 bucks to go see her? No.


Best fwd in the world? Thats quite a claim.


HOLY BAJEEBUS BREAK OUT THE RECORD BOOKS!!!11!!!!1!!1

Hannah Montana tickets sold for thousands on eBay. The tickets must be worth something. Best fwd in the world? Yes. And what other 4 cylinder you know of makes 260 bhp N/A?

[soul]

**********!!!!!!!!!!!***************
if everyone will take the time to reread this thread its very obvious that 95% of the people defending it or saying they would buy it, are current honda owners an fanboys.....




come honda boys, be real here its a ****ing 50k civic and like already stated 250bhp and fwd self proclaimed champion still is like winning in the retard olympics

[Frög]

Best fwd in the world? Yes. And what other 4 cylinder you know of makes 260 bhp N/A?

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I hate to be cliche(sp?) but thats like being the smartest kid with down syndrome.

[TypeRPersonality]

The smartest kid with down syndrome would probably yield a higher IQ than some people.

[xlilvi3tx]

Hannah Montanna tickets sell out in under a minute. Does that mean its worth paying $90 bucks to go see her? No.


Best fwd in the world? Thats quite a claim.


HOLY BAJEEBUS BREAK OUT THE RECORD BOOKS!!!11!!!!1!!1

LOL! to some people it is worth it. If u got the money i bet u wouldnt even mind gettin that civic along with all the other **** u can get with 50k.

best fwd? it might be but it has already proven to perform well on track.

260bhp is pretty damn good for a lil honda n/a. im guessin most people that does buy this car more for it rarity then its hp. and im betting that they all have money. and yeh honestly if i had money i would not mind havin it but if all i got is 50k then **** that!

[soul]

Most people with money who collect cars for rarity usually have standards to the collection and id say 99% of car collectors dont have or consider any honda to date a true "collector"


but ya if i had a **** load of money and liked getting kicked in the nuts and being a complete retard and wear my helmet around town then ya id buy a 50k civic might as paint that **** neon pink or green too, jdm tyte

[TypeRPersonality]

Most people with money who collect cars for rarity usually have standards to the collection and id say 99% of car collectors dont have or consider any honda to date a true "collector"


but ya if i had a **** load of money and liked getting kicked in the nuts and being a complete retard and wear my helmet around town then ya id buy a 50k civic might as paint that **** neon pink or green too, jdm tyte

Your argument holds no weight. Your only standpoint is that you dislike it because it's a Honda. And what's obvious is that, 95% of people hating on it are not Honda owners.

And it's only 40K!!!!!!

[soul]

ive owned honda's as most people who are hating on it, then moved on from hondas for a reason...

[xlilvi3tx]

Most people with money who collect cars for rarity usually have standards to the collection and id say 99% of car collectors dont have or consider any honda to date a true "collector"


but ya if i had a **** load of money and liked getting kicked in the nuts and being a complete retard and wear my helmet around town then ya id buy a 50k civic might as paint that **** neon pink or green too, jdm tyte

Its a honda they're everywhere right? That is your own opinion. anyone can like these lil tuner car even the rich ass fukers. Hondas, nissan, ford, ect. they are everywhere yet all of them do have cars that are rare and limited. Only reason why no one consider honda a "collectable" is because honda never really made anything worth collecting or rare. A RR is a beautiful lil civic in my opinion and who would buy them right? Yet all 300 of them is already sold is it not?

Yeh, if thats what u think then ok. Dont buy it, its your choice. When we get money u buy your lil mustang cobra thing and ill buy my lil honda RR toy. Some things are worth it to other people some things arent and thats just how it is. As of Right now i dont have any money i wouldnt even buy that damn civic but its nice lil honda to me.

[xlilvi3tx]

ive owned honda's as most people who are hating on it, then moved on from hondas for a reason...

ill agree that i do see people moving on to bigger things. everyone got goals and everyone got reason for them. to me a honda is good enough for me since im not aimin for no 1000hp+ or tryin to drift and ****. just about 400hp is fine for me and a honda can handle it. if u want more power or get into rwd get a nissan or something else, if not get a honda. simple as that...

[TypeRPersonality]

ive owned honda's as most people who are hating on it, then moved on from hondas for a reason...

I've owned cars aside from Honda myself. I am not defending the car in the sense of practicality nor its market price tag. My standpoint is that it is a great car and worthy of something. I just don't see why it and the people who like it are being ridiculed.

If I had 40k, I would buy a house, not a car.

[soul]

ill agree that i do see people moving on to bigger things. everyone got goals and everyone got reason for them. to me a honda is good enough for me since im not aimin for no 1000hp+ or tryin to drift and ****. just about 400hp is fine for me and a honda can handle it. if u want more power or get into rwd get a nissan or something else, if not get a honda. simple as that...

and youll need FI for that 400, i would almost agree with the price if it was actually FI also, nothing serious, 6lbs at stock or something and it would be in the 300's easly

[xlilvi3tx]

and youll need FI for that 400, i would almost agree with the price if it was actually FI also, nothing serious, 6lbs at stock or something and it would be in the 300's easly

yeh i know that and thats all i want.
the price tag is high for a civic but i guess its just a rarity thing. even though it a 250hp n/a car, i still get it just to have it if i got more money then i can spend.

[blackshine007]

Okay, let me try to give some suggestions as to what they could've done.

*First off, K23 block (boost)
*K20A heads with a mild set of turbo cams (Something that could still meet ULEV status)
*A small mitsubishi turbo (maybe a 14B or slightly bigger, not too much bigger)
*SH-AWD
*Same perfect suspension
*Same perfect brakes

I garunteed that this car would out handle the RR any day of the week. Not to mention out power it in the corners. With the small turbo it's gonna spool damn near off idle improving the midrange by alot. So that way when VTEC actually kicks in, the smaller turbo will help the effeciency of the engine thereby making slightly even more HP with way more tq.

[Liltoua]

that thing is HOT! unfortunately so is the price tag lol

[Joelow30071]

the best one by far. I love mugen theme integrated in this civic. I would by one in a heart beat.

[GSRteg®]

Its clean, but in no way in hell would I pay $50,000 for this.

[R3RUN]

The smartest kid with down syndrome would probably yield a higher IQ than some people.

Yea, the dumber kids with down syndrome. Just because he's smarter than they are doesn't mean he is in any way intelligent.

LOL! to some people it is worth it. If u got the money i bet u wouldnt even mind gettin that civic along with all the other **** u can get with 50k.

best fwd? it might be but it has already proven to perform well on track.

260bhp is pretty damn good for a lil honda n/a. im guessin most people that does buy this car more for it rarity then its hp. and im betting that they all have money. and yeh honestly if i had money i would not mind havin it but if all i got is 50k then **** that!

If I had the money that is the last thing I would buy. I'd finish my 240, buy a c6 z06 as a daily (great warranty on a fast car) and invest/save the rest. I would certainly not pay 50k for a car when I could easily build a superior vehicle for less.