Ferrari gets revenge on the idiot that cut a 360 and made it in a limo.

[mushroom_toy]

Who cares what the man does. Its his money. If you don't like it too bad. You all have cars and there is bound to be someone that is going to hate on yours. If Ferrari sells a car to someone then that person owns the vehicle, and should be able to do what he chooses with it. Most people decide to run theirs into brick walls or trees, but he isnt destroying the car he is merely modifying it. Ugly it may be but thats his decision. This man is just trying something different and is being frowned upon. What a load of crap on Ferraris part.

[EJ25RUN]

Who cares what the man does. Its his money. If you don't like it too bad. You all have cars and there is bound to be someone that is going to hate on yours. If Ferrari sells a car to someone then that person owns the vehicle, and should be able to do what he chooses with it. Most people decide to run theirs into brick walls or trees, but he isnt destroying the car he is merely modifying it. Ugly it may be but thats his decision. This man is just trying something different and is being frowned upon. What a load of crap on Ferraris part.

But it's not a Ferrari anymore.

[mushroom_toy]

But it's not a Ferrari anymore.

Im pretty sure if you look into his contract of agreement on the purchase of the car, it probably says he bought a ferrari. Like it or not, it still is the same basic thing, and just like someone else said its just a tool to move you around. Dont glorify it to the point of insanity. Its just a car.

[EJ25RUN]

Im pretty sure if you look into his contract of agreement on the purchase of the car, it probably says he bought a ferrari. Like it or not, it still is the same basic thing, and just like someone else said its just a tool to move you around. Dont glorify it to the point of insanity. Its just a car.

....I guess. But glorifying it to the point of insanity might make one of these IA posters get mad and make a post full of worthless b.s. because they don't know how to have a discussion without getting pissed of.

....Your right on what you wrote, i just see it differently. I guess this is one of those, to each his own type things.

[MistaCee]

^^ yup. Its sad its a Ferrari but in the end its just a car

[mushroom_toy]

Everyone has their values in a car, its just to be honest, everyone is the same basic thing. While each car is built differently and for a different purpose, they all are just tools. Whether for our pleasure,racing, or just to get to work and back. I just don't think Ferrari should take it to the point of suing the man. If Ferrari was suing me I would probably rip the badges off anyway and substitute it with my own name or something. Who wants to buy a very expensive car from someone and turn around and have em sue ya. XD

[MistaCee]

Everyone has their values in a car, its just to be honest, everyone is the same basic thing. While each car is built differently and for a different purpose, they all are just tools. Whether for our pleasure,racing, or just to get to work and back. I just don't think Ferrari should take it to the point of suing the man. If Ferrari was suing me I would probably rip the badges off anyway and substitute it with my own name or something. Who wants to buy a very expensive car from someone and turn around and have em sue ya. XD

well put

[EJ25RUN]

If Ferrari was suing me I would probably rip the badges off anyway and substitute it with my own name or something.

That's all they want......it's very simple really.

[mushroom_toy]

That's all they want......it's very simple really.

IM pretty sure there is also some monetary gain they are looking for as well though. Anyway the guy should be free to choose. He might not want to take the badges off. Either way who knows the outcome, but probably Ferrari will make some money and that will be the last we hear of it.

[Thighs]

i think its kinda dumb that they are suing him. i agree that it looks dumb and i would never do that to the car, but it is HIS car, and if he wants a limo ferrari he should be able to have it.

but if i was in his shoes, i would de-badge it, put if for sale, and then let the next person who buys it put their badges on it, then id buy another ferrari just to piss the company off. lol

another thing, shouldnt ferrari sue the retards who drive nsxs or mr2s with ferrari logos on them? ive seen both around before, and thought it was dumb.

[EJ25RUN]

another thing, shouldnt ferrari sue the retards who drive nsxs or mr2s with ferrari logos on them? ive seen both around before, and thought it was dumb.

That's not on the same level of destroying something comping from Maranello.

[EJ25RUN]

IM pretty sure there is also some monetary gain they are looking for as well though. Anyway the guy should be free to choose. He might not want to take the badges off. Either way who knows the outcome, but probably Ferrari will make some money and that will be the last we hear of it.

Just read post #36, and reply to that cause im tired of typing.

[Thighs]

That's not on the same level of destroying something comping from Maranello.

but theyre suing(sp) him for copyright infringement and saying that he cant have ferrari badges on it if its not a ferrari, and by their definition it isnt.

im not sure, but i doubt a honda or toyota would be considered a ferrari...

[EJ25RUN]

but theyre suing(sp) him for copyright infringement and saying that he cant have ferrari badges on it if its not a ferrari, and by their definition it isnt.

im not sure, but i doubt a honda or toyota would be considered a ferrari...

I guess if you really get into it on that level.....Ferrari wants a divorce from that exact car. Like their are disowning it.

See what i'm getting at?

[Thighs]

I guess if you really get into it on that level.....Ferrari wants a divorce from that exact car. Like their are disowning it.

See what i'm getting at?

they dont own the car, the retard limo guy does. ferrari has no right to sue him for modifying his own car.

i see what your saying, and i agree to an extent, but i think its a little silly for ferrari to actually take him to court over it.

[mushroom_toy]

I would actually deny people from being allowed to buy them.

What would happen? No, not outrage, my car would be worth more because of the demand.

It's like being let into the Masters Golf Club. You didn't get accepted....Sorry try harder next time.

I would do all this to make sure thing like that "limo" were to never happen. If you disagree, fine.....I'm just here to keep respect in the name.

That's just the way i see it. I don't feel it's ignorant, i see ignorants as someone destroying my vision in a car. So if Enzo would have said NO, I'd do the same.

You would make a good dictator lol. You cant really deny someone of owning something, especially in the world we live in today. Where theres a will theres a way, and Im pretty sure someone would find a way to get their hands on what they want whether anyone likes it or not.

Really though all this is besides the point. Everyone is bringing about personal opinions, and its all biased.

The real matter is whether or not what Ferrari is doing is right or wrong. If they do sue the guy then they SHOULD sue everyone that has bought a Ferrari and even added something as little as a sticker. Expression is how people show themselves. You can buy a Ferrari and be happy with it untouched, or you can turn it into a limo. The real issue is freedom of choice, and whether or not people should have the right to modify their cars according to ferrari, evidently.

[EJ25RUN]

they dont own the car, the retard limo guy does. ferrari has no right to sue him for modifying his own car.

i see what your saying, and i agree to an extent, but i think its a little silly for Ferrari to actually take him to court over it.

Many things are a little silly.... i like this one cause it might deter other idiots from destroying their Ferrari.

So you dont get confused Modify Ferrari to go faster = OK
Modify Ferrari to sit 15 Drunk prom girls = Not OK

[mushroom_toy]

Many things are a little silly.... i like this one cause it might deter other idiots from destroying their Ferrari.

So you dont get confused Modify Ferrari to go faster = OK
Modify Ferrari to sit 15 Drunk prom girls = Not OK

See thats completely one sided and biased out the ass. More or less just opinion.

[EJ25RUN]

You would make a good dictator lol. You cant really deny someone of owning something, especially in the world we live in today. Where theres a will theres a way, and Im pretty sure someone would find a way to get their hands on what they want whether anyone likes it or not.

Really though all this is besides the point. Everyone is bringing about personal opinions, and its all biased.

The real matter is whether or not what Ferrari is doing is right or wrong. If they do sue the guy then they SHOULD sue everyone that has bought a Ferrari and even added something as little as a sticker. Expression is how people show themselves. You can buy a Ferrari and be happy with it untouched, or you can turn it into a limo. The real issue is freedom of choice, and whether or not people should have the right to modify their cars according to ferrari, evidently.

Point taken.... Your right.

The should sue everyone part i commented in my previous post.

Again...my opinion on this biased topic so.................

[EJ25RUN]

See thats completely one sided and biased out the ass. More or less just opinion.

No...then why are Novitec and Hamann licensed to modify Ferraris?

[mushroom_toy]

No...then why are Novitec and Hamann licensed to modify Ferraris?

Money.

[Thighs]

Many things are a little silly.... i like this one cause it might deter other idiots from destroying their Ferrari.

So you dont get confused Modify Ferrari to go faster = OK
Modify Ferrari to sit 15 Drunk prom girls = Not OK

LOL you cant sue somebody because YOU think what they are doing is right or wrong.

maybe i should sue you because i dont think new beetles should drift like the one in your sig, and i think you should remove it because it isnt a real new beetle

[Ran]

What an absolute load of BS. I hope this guy comes out on top then counter-sues Ferrari to put these elitist morons in their place.

[EJ25RUN]

LOL you cant sue somebody because YOU think what they are doing is right or wrong.

maybe i should sue you because i dont think new beetles should drift like the one in your sig, and i think you should remove it because it isnt a real new beetle

Well i counter sue you for wasteing my time for the last 40 min.

[EJ25RUN]

Money.

so if this guy came to Ferrari with "Money", then this would be ok?

[Thighs]

Well i counter sue you for wasteing my time for the last 40 min.

well ive only wasted about 10 minutes of your time. but it is in the thread that you created?

lets do it. ill email judge judy now

[mushroom_toy]

Umm he already paid for the car. They already have his money. You asked why Novitec and Hamann were licensed to mod Ferrari. I said money.

[UpSideDownDesi]

someone chopped a lambo diablo a while ago and turned into a Limo....did lambo sue him?

[EJ25RUN]

Umm he already paid for the car. They already have his money. You asked why Novitec and Hamann were licensed to mod Ferrari. I said money.

Novitec and Hamann have to show Ferrari all their stuff before they can put it on the car.

I highly doubt when someone at Ferrari sold him that car.... any idea of a backward limo creation was in order.

[EJ25RUN]

well ive only wasted about 10 minutes of your time. but it is in the thread that you created?

lets do it. ill email judge judy now

Not necessary......I just want those few on this site that get over upset in an argument and take it to heart.

Like 350z owners

[bigdare23]

Damn, after every post EJ25RUN comes back defending Ferrari.


Stop being a fanboy.

[EJ25RUN]

Damn, after every post EJ25RUN comes back defending Ferrari.


Stop being a fanboy.

It's not that......

i just figured i'd play defence in this discussion......cause no one else will.

It's like the ESPN show PTI (GOOD SHOW) don't matter if they both feel the same way. One of them has to take the opposing side.

[EJ25RUN]

Where did everyone go?

Things were getting heated......

[G.C]

thats dumb...

[Danny]

so is the same principal going to*** apply the ricers who slap honda badges on geo's?

(not strickly directed to you, some other responses influenced my response)

Honda has no reputation to the elite, its an economy car. Ferrari has spent its entire life as a company designing and building cars that are an exotic art form. Honda makes things that carry kids to soccer practice, entry level semi-sports cars, and kick ass lawnmowers. Ferrari makes, purpose built street cars, with bloodlines directly from their F1. Honda rents out a couple IRL and Kart engines through out the year, thats about it. Point is, as nice as honda's are, they have no ground to sue ricers, as to some degree they market to that crowd (it makes them money). Not to mention the pure mathematical part, you cant sue all the ricers or even enough of them to make a point; there is just too many of them. When Ferrari found out someone made a limo that was making 'headlines' (if u will), ruining everything Ferrari has stood for over the decades, that gives them grounds to sue.

For example, if Picasso sold an original to Bobby, and bobby came home and painted in some extra things onto the canvas, but left Picasso's signature. Is it a true Picasso, of course not, its garbage (although it still has appeal and value to certain individuals).
Just my 2 cents.

[EJ25RUN]

(not strickly directed to you, some other responses influenced my response)

Honda has no reputation to the elite, its an economy car. Ferrari has spent its entire life as a company designing and building cars that are an exotic art form. Honda makes things that carry kids to soccer practice, entry level semi-sports cars, and kick ass lawnmowers. Ferrari makes, purpose built street cars, with bloodlines directly from their F1. Honda rents out a couple IRL and Kart engines through out the year, thats about it. Point is, as nice as honda's are, they have no ground to sue ricers, as to some degree they market to that crowd (it makes them money). Not to mention the pure mathematical part, you cant sue all the ricers or even enough of them to make a point; there is just too many of them. When Ferrari found out someone made a limo that was making 'headlines' (if u will), ruining everything Ferrari has stood for over the decades, that gives them grounds to sue.

For example, if Picasso sold an original to Bobby, and bobby came home and painted in some extra things onto the canvas, but left Picasso's signature. Is it a true Picasso, of course not, its garbage (although it still has appeal and value to certain individuals).
Just my 2 cents.

Wow.... Well written,

Hits what i was trying to say.

[Ran]

A car is a car. Whether it's a Bugatti or a Daewoo, an owner buys a car and thus it is their property and they should be free to do what they want with it. Whether it's turning it into a limo, making it perform better, or adding helicopter propellers.

Ferrari's head is way too swollen if they think that they have any justifiable right to tell an owner (car not leased, but owned) what he can or can't do with his own vehicle.

If anything, I hope that this actually scares potential buyers away from Ferrari due to their limitations on what they'll "allow" owners to do with their own vehicles.

[Danny]

Wow.... Well written,

Hits what i was trying to say.

Thanks, on one hand I want to scream INSANITY. But on my more realistic, thought out hand I realize that branding is everything is this world. The people that do not understand branding, and how difficult it is to build a brand that is world recognized for performance, beauty, and uniqueness will be the same people to yell BS and scream "ELITIST PIGS" at the top of their lungs. No I didnt read all the posts, i only read 3 or 4, but I would bet a few dollars at least one person has screamed something very similar in this thread.

It all comes down to upholding a brands image, and they have the right to [ask /prove to] a jury if their brand has suffered damage from this guys moronic decision to destroy a Ferrari and in the process blatantly disregarded every ideal Ferrari has established, over the past what... 80+ years now?

[EJ25RUN]

A car is a car. Whether it's a Bugatti or a Daewoo, an owner buys a car and thus it is their property and they should be free to do what they want with it. Whether it's turning it into a limo, making it perform better, or adding helicopter propellers.

Ferrari's head is way too swollen if they think that they have any justifiable right to tell an owner (car not leased, but owned) what he can or can't do with his own vehicle.

If anything, I hope that this actually scares potential buyers away from Ferrari due to their limitations on what they'll "allow" owners to do with their own vehicles.

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Thanks, on one hand I want to scream INSANITY. But on my more realistic, thought out hand I realize that branding is everything is this world. The people that do not understand branding, and how difficult it is to build a brand that is world recognized for performance, beauty, and uniqueness will be the same people to yell BS and scream "ELITIST PIGS" at the top of their lungs. No I didnt read all the posts, i only read 3 or 4, but I would bet a few dollars at least one person has screamed something very similar in this thread.

It all comes down to upholding a brands image, and they have the right to [ask /prove to] a jury if their brand has suffered damage from this guys moronic decision to destroy a Ferrari and in the process blatantly disregarded every ideal Ferrari has established, over the past what... 80+ years now?

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Let me use this example Ran.....

Im guessing you like anime....

So lets say your an anime artist.
You sell your work.
Someone buys your work.
That someone modifies your work but continues to call it yours.
What do you do?

[Ran]

The people that do not understand branding, and how difficult it is to build a brand that is world recognized for performance, beauty, and uniqueness will be the same people to yell BS and scream "ELITIST PIGS" at the top of their lungs. No I didnt read all the posts, i only read 3 or 4, but I would bet a few dollars at least one person has screamed something very similar in this thread.

That would be me.

I understand that it takes a lot to build a performance vehicle that is unique and I give all the credit in the world to Ferrari for their accomplishments. However, for them to take a step this drastic against an owner is just wrong and thus does justifiably tag them as "Elitist Pigs".

It all comes down to upholding a brands image, and they have the right to [ask /prove to] a jury if their brand has suffered damage from this guys moronic decision to destroy a Ferrari and in the process blatantly disregarded every ideal Ferrari has established, over the past what... 80+ years now?

Ferrari's only real hand in "upholding their image" lies on their dealer showroom floor. Once someone legally purchases a vehicle and has the title, then that owner should be free to do what he wants with it.

You guys make a nameplate hold too much value. It's a piece of property that this man bought with his money and legally owns. Who's right is it to tell him what he can or can't do with it? It's common sense at it's finest and I'm not seeing a lot of it in this thread.

Let me use this example Ran.....

Im guessing you like anime....

So lets say your an anime artist.
You sell your work.
Someone buys your work.
That someone modifies your work but continues to call it yours.
What do you do?

If I sell my artwork to someone for good money, then they can do whatever they want with it. If I didn't want anything to happen to it, I wouldn't sell it to them in the first place.

Isn't this why Ferrari has such high standards for buyers in the first place? One guy slips under their radar and suddenly they get their panties in a wad. They need to just suck it up.