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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.org
    lol @ a "classic integra"
    He's right to a certain extent.

    As a driver's car... the ITR is a great machine and is one of the few FWD cars that will go down in history as a classic. It was made with a purpose with more than the daily commute in mind.

    Now that doesn't mean it has to be from Japan. Any ITR no matter where it was sold qualifies so "JDM" has nothing to do with it.

    And why would you want one, well it's obviously not your type of car if going in a straight line is the most important thing. It's for the person who will take his car up to the mountains are actual track days to wind it out.

    The Integra Type-R, is a classic just like every car Type R car to leave the Honda factory is. The Type R cars are built all around with improved Chassis, brake and of course engine modifications as well. But i feel like most people here or in the tuning scene in general assume that the only way to drive is in 1/4 miles. For that reason Type R really does mean nothing. Very few features of a Type R really benefit it for those purposes. But if auto crossing, mtn runs, or for any other true driving, the Type R shines.

    Just think about the thick Sway Bars, LSD, better welded chassis and frame design for stiffness and strength, and reduced weight. These are all characteristics of a true performance car.

    Again, im not a JDM or Honda fanboy, i respect ITR Integras as they were built to give the average guy a chance to own a car similar to what you'd see on the track and that's what it is. The Type R family is the closest Honda ever got to true homoligated specials.

    For $22,000, i'd just buy a 00-01 Integra Type R in much better shape and half the price if i really wanted one.

    But again, not just by me but by automotive journalists the world over....The Type- R is a classic.

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    ^^ type-r ftw

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    Quote Originally Posted by DC2NR
    I'd just go ahead and buy a supra or nsx.
    For the price...Yes. For comparison of the car....No

    But for the price......I saw used NSX.

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    i went to nad today and saw the car personaly but they were really serious about them getting 20,000 for it like everyone on here i way to damn expensive 16k and under would be more rational for what it is
    if you look really hard you could even find a the 2007 CTR and imported here for around 25,000 so um ill stick to that instead of the ITR
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    good luck importing a 2007 CTR.....the us importing laws are getting stricter

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    i saw it yesterday. the car looks good. i'd love to pick it up and have it as an awesome DD. i heard that it has been sold, and it went for like 16k or 19k?
    but... that much for a non-registered car? i'd rather have a usdm.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BLK_TEG
    if you look really hard you could even find a the 2007 CTR and imported here for around 25,000 so um ill stick to that instead of the ITR
    my buddy just got back from japan, and he said something about a mugen civic RR? mmm... 240 hp



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    Quote Originally Posted by stygiosracing
    my buddy just got back from japan, and he said something about a mugen civic RR?
    and what did he say exactly...he aint gonna get it in to the us, ill tell you that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    and what did he say exactly...he aint gonna get it in to the us, ill tell you that.
    hell no, but since he was talking about importing a 2007 ctr, why not mugen RR?



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    Quote Originally Posted by stygiosracing
    hell no, but since he was talking about importing a 2007 ctr, why not mugen RR?
    i'd like to see that happen, but more power to him.

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    mugen RR are sold out for 2008 there were only 300 of them and sold out in 10 minutes..next years model will probably do the same...

    there was a mugen RR for sale and it cost almost 50k us in hong kong.. shipping and all of that would be ridiculous.... but it would be able to get legalized in the US just to let anyone know

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    He's right to a certain extent.

    As a driver's car... the ITR is a great machine and is one of the few FWD cars that will go down in history as a classic. It was made with a purpose with more than the daily commute in mind.

    Now that doesn't mean it has to be from Japan. Any ITR no matter where it was sold qualifies so "JDM" has nothing to do with it.

    And why would you want one, well it's obviously not your type of car if going in a straight line is the most important thing. It's for the person who will take his car up to the mountains are actual track days to wind it out.

    The Integra Type-R, is a classic just like every car Type R car to leave the Honda factory is. The Type R cars are built all around with improved Chassis, brake and of course engine modifications as well. But i feel like most people here or in the tuning scene in general assume that the only way to drive is in 1/4 miles. For that reason Type R really does mean nothing. Very few features of a Type R really benefit it for those purposes. But if auto crossing, mtn runs, or for any other true driving, the Type R shines.

    Just think about the thick Sway Bars, LSD, better welded chassis and frame design for stiffness and strength, and reduced weight. These are all characteristics of a true performance car.

    Again, im not a JDM or Honda fanboy, i respect ITR Integras as they were built to give the average guy a chance to own a car similar to what you'd see on the track and that's what it is. The Type R family is the closest Honda ever got to true homoligated specials.

    For $22,000, i'd just buy a 00-01 Integra Type R in much better shape and half the price if i really wanted one.

    But again, not just by me but by automotive journalists the world over....The Type- R is a classic.

    i see copy/paste is still treating you well....not sure a car that was mass produced the world over, even a "special edition" will ever be considered a classic, stateside anyway, but to the fanboys im sure it will be, if it already isnt considered such
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR.org
    i see copy/paste is still treating you well....not sure a car that was mass produced the world over, even a "special edition" will ever be considered a classic, stateside anyway, but to the fanboys im sure it will be, if it already isnt considered such
    copy paste? Are you suggesting i plagiarized what i wrote.

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    If you want a Type R, just get one of these...


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    this thread is full of fail. im not argueing the fact that type-r's are nice cars and im sure its gonna be a car that is remembered...but come on man...a classic..those days are over. this car wil a car that ppl talk about but it wil not be anything worht having in your collection. in 2040 when you have a 1997 itr its gonna be worth about $1500. its still a honda and no one cares about it except for the ppl that hold it on a pedestal because of its jdm goodness. look guys..i have had 3 mazda 323 gt's they made ~2500 turbo mazda 323's in 88 and 89...roughly 700 were 4 door models. i ahve had 3 of them. that is way more rare than any itr and they are not worth ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    this thread is full of fail. im not argueing the fact that type-r's are nice cars and im sure its gonna be a car that is remembered...but come on man...a classic..those days are over. this car wil a car that ppl talk about but it wil not be anything worht having in your collection. in 2040 when you have a 1997 itr its gonna be worth about $1500. its still a honda and no one cares about it except for the ppl that hold it on a pedestal because of its jdm goodness. look guys..i have had 3 mazda 323 gt's they made ~2500 turbo mazda 323's in 88 and 89...roughly 700 were 4 door models. i ahve had 3 of them. that is way more rare than any itr and they are not worth ****.
    You obviously have no way of seeing a classic.

    You answered part of what i was gonna say.

    Rarity is not the only factor in a cars collectibility, 323 was #1 an ugly car with no real performance pedigree. No one wants the ugly things. Just like cars from the 80's are returning in raised value, the GNX, Turbo Trans Ams, and SVO Mustangs. A classic has many factors and the ITR fits many of those. It's not just what YOU would put in your collection but the general population of collectors down the road. So yeah, if a 15,000 mile ITR exists, it will be worth a lot of money in 2040. Like i said before, JDM has nothing to do with it. It's a great car period. A 323 just isn't. If you disagree, then you dont get it.

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    i dont get it then..because to me a itr is just an integra. so why dont you use your infinite wisdom on classic imports and buy a few itr's???? im sure you would be a millionaire in a couple years. the 323 was def ugly..i agree..but so were many classic cars that grace barrett-jackson...the rareness is what brings the money on those old cars. the turbo 323 was rare and even today is only worth a few grand. a mass produced honda is not gonna pull any coin.....so no i dont get it.....i dont get why a honda is gonna be some kinda icon 32 years from now. i dont doubt it will be remembered..i have said that already..but to me a classic is a car that will be remembered as well as be wanted and worth money...alot of it. itr is to classic cars as the hemi cuda is to pottery.

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    japan-partner.com has them for less than 8k shipped. Just need to be americanized then you'll have one for 12k.

    If i remember correctly, rupertaker had one for sale with spoon front lip RHD, CW, recaros, for like 9900 dollars on here about 5 months ago.


    just have to get them when they're in stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhan44
    what does that mean?
    also he asked what year...not how much.

    but 22k? i better be able to fuk the pres. of Honda in the ass for 22k for an integra
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBP_EM1
    japan-partner.com has them for less than 8k shipped. Just need to be americanized then you'll have one for 12k.

    If i remember correctly, rupertaker had one for sale with spoon front lip RHD, CW, recaros, for like 9900 dollars on here about 5 months ago.


    just have to get them when they're in stock

    that was not registered or legalized

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    i dont get it then..because to me a itr is just an integra. so why dont you use your infinite wisdom on classic imports and buy a few itr's???? im sure you would be a millionaire in a couple years. the 323 was def ugly..i agree..but so were many classic cars that grace barrett-jackson...the rareness is what brings the money on those old cars. the turbo 323 was rare and even today is only worth a few grand. a mass produced honda is not gonna pull any coin.....so no i dont get it.....i dont get why a honda is gonna be some kinda icon 32 years from now. i dont doubt it will be remembered..i have said that already..but to me a classic is a car that will be remembered as well as be wanted and worth money...alot of it. itr is to classic cars as the hemi cuda is to pottery.
    Your way off on your analogies.

    A Type R is to an Integra as is a GT3 RS is to a 911. It's built different and were made for homiligation purposes.

    Read this Wiki article

    "An interesting and little publicised fact about the 1996-2001 DC2 Type R is that Honda lost money on every single vehicle sold, even though extra dealer markups sometimes made for excessive dealer profit. Honda produced the DC2 Type R for homologation purposes to meet FIA certification of the motor and the chassis changes to make the car more competitive in N-series and World Cup racing. The details required, hand tooling in early versions and finishing the product through the use of various small fabrication shops in Japan made for increased costs in manufacture that could not be made up in the list price of the vehicles. Honda (and Acura in the US) deemed the car important for the marque's image and important for the racing programmes of the era, and the parent company therefore accepted a financial net loss on each vehicle sold."

    Barrett Jackson is not a good example, Allot of the cars that bring high dollar at Barrett Jackson have less than 10 miles in their lifetime. That's not a real car if you shove it an a shed for 25 years. Also, the industry has changed since the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. Those ultra low production cars are not gonna exist anymore.

    The biggest factor for Barrett Jackson today is these are cars were sold when most of these 40+ year old buyers were young. On top of that they are primarily from the U.S. or European decent. So obviously the market isn't there in the U.S. currently and might never come. That is a different story elsewhere in the world. There are a few Japanese cars that could bring the 100,000+ number like the 2000gt and some race cars. No doubt this cant happen in japan. Now if were to go to 2040, in Japan with a rare example of a Type R, such as the first one of a certain model year or an ultra low mileage car it might bring high dollar at an auction.

    But all i just wrote is to go with your Barret Jackson example.

    Again i'm looking at the Type R as a classic because Honda didn't have to make. But they did and it became the best FWD car ever. It was built to go round a race track like every good car should and gave more to the driver than any other car like it. Why do you think they still sell for 12,000+ and Nads thinks they can get 22,000 for theirs. You don't have to wait 32 years because the ITR is 10 years old now in it's earliest example sold in the USA and again worth around $12,000....That's a 50% deprecation in 11 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    Your way off on your analogies.

    A Type R is to an Integra as is a GT3 RS is to a 911. It's built different and were made for homiligation purposes.
    your reading comprehension is way off. i was not comparing the itr to integra's i was comparing the itr to classic cars. i am very aware that the itr is the top dawg integra. however if compared to actual classic cars you easily see the differences.

    thanks for the history lesson on the itr. most companies that make a "race model" make for the same reason the itr was made. the turbo 323 was produced for rally. they had to have a production car..blah blah...who cares. its just a 323. its the same with the itr. im not totally disagreeing with you cod. its going to be a memorable car..i just just dont think we are gonna see anyone going crazy over a low mileage itr 30 years from now. this is the era of throw away cars.

    just remember guy, im not saying you are wrong just saying that in my honest opinion they will never reach the status that you see the hemi cuda's have. they will never be saught after. i dont see anyone re-storing an itr. just my opinion. you can call off your wikipedia search now. you have nothing to prove

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    Quote Originally Posted by japan4racing
    your reading comprehension is way off. i was not comparing the itr to integra's i was comparing the itr to classic cars. i am very aware that the itr is the top dawg integra. however if compared to actual classic cars you easily see the differences.

    thanks for the history lesson on the itr. most companies that make a "race model" make for the same reason the itr was made. the turbo 323 was produced for rally. they had to have a production car..blah blah...who cares. its just a 323. its the same with the itr. im not totally disagreeing with you cod. its going to be a memorable car..i just just dont think we are gonna see anyone going crazy over a low mileage itr 30 years from now. this is the era of throw away cars.

    just remember guy, im not saying you are wrong just saying that in my honest opinion they will never reach the status that you see the hemi cuda's have. they will never be saught after. i dont see anyone re-storing an itr. just my opinion. you can call off your wikipedia search now. you have nothing to prove
    It's not gonna be a Hemi (off coarse not), but we have different opinions on it, ill leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    It's not gonna be a Hemi (off coarse not), but we have different opinions on it, ill leave it at that.
    i already left it at that..i was waiting for you to catch up

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    Quote Originally Posted by NAIZBST
    that was not registered or legalized
    still was much cheaper.
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    the car will get stolen in no time. . I hope whoever buys this has enough sense to secure it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBP_EM1
    If i remember correctly, rupertaker had one for sale with spoon front lip RHD, CW, recaros, for like 9900 dollars on here about 5 months ago.
    Rupertaker has had many JDM Type Rs including a JDM Civic Type R.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBP_EM1
    japan-partner.com has them for less than 8k shipped. Just need to be americanized then you'll have one for 12k.

    If i remember correctly, rupertaker had one for sale with spoon front lip RHD, CW, recaros, for like 9900 dollars on here about 5 months ago.


    just have to get them when they're in stock
    and LOL at the japan partner comment.

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