HID's on my ef

[AnTi-PooN]

thnx nitro

tell me what yall think

[WHT_EP3]

3000k ftw looks really good man

[Ch0psticks11]

looks good man....i really like the 3000k HID's

good choice

[blackboi50]

join the club.......3k's FTW!!.......1

[b16ftw]

looks good

[jayjaySTI]

looks good... and clean up ur garage

[bigdare23]

remind me to drive behind you LOL

[AnTi-PooN]

dirty garage FTW... thnx for the input guys

[WalkS]

man im diggin those... Are they legal? And where did you get yours?

[Tree]

clean

[b18cCuzz]

nice

[skillzilla]

remind me to drive behind you LOL

hahaha seriously, old people are hating you right now. Look pretty ill though...

[1SICKLEX]

Great another car blinding me with an HID kit but not built for HID....

[Sol-Badguy]

I think you're going to blind people.

I hate it.

[Scotsman]

looks sick bro! i'll be hittin up nitro soon for some myself

[Repost Squintz]

should've done a retro fit... but looks good

[AnTi-PooN]

man im diggin those... Are they legal? And where did you get yours?

got them from nitro on here

[manilikecars]

those are bright in the pics, looks good. can you even see with those

[Elbow]

Nice I want some like that

[blackboi50]

Great another car blinding me with an HID kit but not built for HID....

.......and .....at the same time........dont look into peeps headlights while your driving!!!!!!.....1

[ZeDFuNk]

repost.

[SRCRX]

They look good!!

[turboSOHC]

looks good for 3k man....

[IntegraXTR]

looks good, but not $140 good. Oh and btw, I can get the same kit as nitro for way less.

[#1Beaver]

luvem mane

[EJ6]

looks like mines lol

[Civic_H2b]

looking good

[Jonflip29]

Lights look good man. I would suck to drive in front of you tho. I need those for my fog lights. My yellow bulbs aren't bright enough. How much is that gonna cost me?

[91fourdoor]

damn man.... i like them

[chrisdohck]

damn nice son

[Doppelgänger]

.......and .....at the same time........dont look into peeps headlights while your driving!!!!!!.....1

tell ya what, i'll drive around with my brights on all the time. Don't mind them though, if you see me coming, just look away while you're driving

[A-ran]

looks good man!

[magneto198]

why yellow

[AnTi-PooN]

repost.

sorry didn't see the other guy taking pics of MY car after i put in MY hid's and then posting the pics on here before i had a chance to post the pics of MY CAR

[blackboi50]

tell ya what, i'll drive around with my brights on all the time. Don't mind them though, if you see me coming, just look away while you're driving

hey guy........brights are aimed up in the air and burn about 10watts brighter.......do it but watch out for cops.......ive seen someone booked in jail for failure to dim headlights........my HIDS are about 10 degrees lower than where i had my stock settings.....just FYI......

hey skinny....nice meetin ya........ya sh!t looked good coming up behind my car last nite!!!!!!........i think i seen ya later on that nite on 20 heading towards MOG.........scweet!!!!!..1

[Doppelgänger]

hey guy........brights are aimed up in the air and burn about 10watts brighter.......do it but watch out for cops.......ive seen someone booked in jail for failure to dim headlights........my HIDS are about 10 degrees lower than where i had my stock settings.....just FYI......

hey skinny....nice meetin ya........ya sh!t looked good coming up behind my car last nite!!!!!!........i think i seen ya later on that nite on 20 heading towards MOG.........scweet!!!!!..1

Regardless where they are aimed, putting HID's in a standard reflective housing is just wrong... it throws the light pattern all over the place. Why do you think all cars with HID's have projector housings?? duuuh. Not to mention that HID's in a standard reflector housing just suck.

I know you think im picking on you, but you're not quite that special...yet. It's a well known fact that HIDs+ reflective housing = pissed off motorists.

Not to mention, its illegal.This is a submission to the NHTSA from someone asking if their "HID replacement kit" would be legal for road use in the US. Anyone with half a flucking brain on here can easily see what the letter is saying.
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html

Santeca Electronics, Inc.
7215 East 21st Street
Suite D
Indianapolis, IN 46219


Dear Mr. Deetz:

This is in reply to your letter of July 30, 2002, to John Womack of this office with respect to a High Intensity Discharge (HID) light source conversion kit that you wish to sell for replaceable bulb headlamps in the United States. On August 15, Taylor Vinson of this office e-mailed you to request a sample of the kit so that we might be better able to advise you. The kit arrived on September 12.

Your specific request was "for guidance in how to begin the process of obtaining D.O.T. approval" for your kit. We have no authority either to approve or disapprove motor vehicles or items of motor vehicle equipment. We do advise correspondents of the relationship of their products to applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards (FMVSS) and other regulations that we administer. If a manufacturer determines that its product is covered by one or more of the FMVSS, and that its product complies with all applicable FMVSS, it must certify compliance of the product when the product is offered for sale. The symbol "DOT" on replacement lighting equipment is often mistaken for "DOT approval" of the equipment but, in fact, it is the manufacturer’s own certification of compliance.

Because your HID conversion kit is intended to replace certain original headlighting equipment, the kit is subject to paragraph S5.8, Replacement Equipment, of FMVSS No. 108 Lamps, Reflective Devices and Associated Equipment, 49 CFR 571.108. Paragraph S5.8 requires that any motor vehicle replacement replaceable light source that is offered for sale in the United States comply with the requirements of FMVSS No. 108. The Federal specifications for replaceable light sources used in original equipment motor vehicle headlighting systems are located in 49 CFR Part 564, Replaceable Light Source Information. The purpose for storing the specifications in Part 564 is two fold: (1) to ensure the availability to replacement light source manufacturers of the specifications of original equipment light sources such that replacement light sources are interchangeable with original equipment light sources and provide equivalent performance, and (2) that redesigned or newly developed light sources are designated as distinct, different, and noninterchangeable with previously existing light sources.

Paragraph S7.7, Replaceable light sources, of FMVSS No. 108, requires in part that each replaceable light source be designed to conform to the dimensions and electrical specifications furnished with respect to it pursuant to Part 564. Thus, in order to use a replaceable light source in a replaceable bulb headlamp, a manufacturer must first have submitted certain information with respect to it (and its ballast if required) in Part 564, or it may use a light source (and ballast if required) if its specifications are already filed in Part 564.

The kit that you furnished us appears to be designed to replace an H1 replaceable light source, and consists of two parts marketed under the name "Thunder Beam." The first part is labeled "HID Bulb Set" and contains two replaceable light sources, identified on the packaging as "WB-H1." The second part is labeled "HID Driver Unit TD-5000," and contains a ballast, an ignitor, a relay, and adapters to convert the motor vehicle’s wiring harness to be compatible with the HID conversion kit.

Based on a review of the H1 light source specification filed in the Part 564 docket (#3397), it is apparent that the Thunder Beam HID Conversion kit is a significant redesign of the H1 light source. At the most basic level, an H1 light source incorporates an incandescent filament in which light is produced by a metallic wire coil heated to incandescence by an electrical current, whereas the HID conversion kit’s light source incorporates a discharge arc to produce the light and requires a ballast for operation. Thus, in order to comply with paragraph S7.7 of FMVSS No. 108, the Thunder Beam light source must comply with, inter alia, the dimensional specifications for the metallic wire coil filament size and location, the electrical connector size and location, and the ballast would need to be a design currently on file for use with an H1 light source. Complying with the dimensional aspects of the H1 light source appears to be an impossibility considering that the wire coil filament and the electrical connector are not a part of your design. Furthermore, there are no ballast designs on file for use with an H1 light source. Thus, your company’s HID conversion kit is not a design that conforms to the Standard and could not be certified as complying with FMVSS No. 108, nor imported into or sold in the United States.

This interpretation would apply to any HID replaceable light source whose base was modified or manufactured to be interchangeable with any regulated headlamp replaceable light source that incorporates an incandescent filament design.

If you have any questions regarding how a manufacturer may submit information to Part 564, you may contact Michael Cole of our Office of Rulemaking (202-366-5276). For legal questions, you may phone Taylor Vinson of this Office (202-366-5263).

Sincerely,

Jacqueline Glassman
Chief Counsel

ref:108
d.11/18/02

Now im sure some of you are going to whine that "oh thats for a H1 kit" or "thats another brand" . What is really going on is that it's basically saying that ANY HID put into any housing is illegal. But because the way a projector housing emits light, it focuses all the light onto the roadway. See, bulbs that are designed for a reflective housing give off light differently...hence why they use reflective housings. Lights that are already in projectors do not use reflectors to aim light. So by putting HID's in a projector, nothing changes in the way light is put out... only the color and inensity are changed, not the light disbursement .

Oh , here is the site to answer ALL questions reguarding vehicle lighting.

http://fmvss108.tripod.com/

[blackboi50]

Regardless where they are aimed, putting HID's in a standard reflective housing is just wrong... it throws the light pattern all over the place. Why do you think all cars with HID's have projector housings?? duuuh. Not to mention that HID's in a standard reflector housing just suck.

I know you think im picking on you, but you're not quite that special...yet. It's a well known fact that HIDs+ reflective housing = pissed off motorists.

Not to mention, its illegal.This is a submission to the NHTSA from someone asking if their "HID replacement kit" would be legal for road use in the US. Anyone with half a flucking brain on here can easily see what the letter is saying.
http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html

wow......nahhh its cool.......((((damn u did your research)))).........ok so 1st off the only vehicles that do piss me off are lifted trucks or H2's with HIDs cuz they are already high off the ground.....but like i said i dont look at em while driving.......that sh!t hurts....

2nd off i believe all acura TL's and RL's from the year 2000-2004 came with HIDs stock in the housing........also maximas from 02-04 had em........that would suck to get a ticket for something that came stock with your car............*shruggs*

im not trying to be a d!ck man im just stating the facts......dont stare into the headlight or u will turn to gold........1

[Doppelgänger]

go back and check the newly edited post... even more information.


(sorry Nitro, not trying to effect your business, just trying to educate buyers)

[Doppelgänger]

2nd off i believe all acura TL's and RL's from the year 2000-2004 came with HIDs stock in the housing........also maximas from 02-04 had em........that would suck to get a ticket for something that came stock with your car............*shruggs*

Im surprised there has not been some kind of complaint regarding this issue. I do know about this and those cars are very aggravating to be in front of. I'm waiting until someone takes Honda to court for such a ****ty designed headlight.

[blackboi50]

Im surprised there has not been some kind of complaint regarding this issue. I do know about this and those cars are very aggravating to be in front of. I'm waiting until someone takes Honda to court for such a ****ty designed headlight.

hehheheh........that would be the day.......why dont u do it homie!!!!!!.......1