So you thought your car was a sleeper

[speedminded]

i'm sorry... but has anyone seen a grand national? now that SOB is a sleeper.

total grandma car on the outside, total beast under the hood. they'll run mid 8's in the 1/4mi any day

LOLOLOL, then you wake up from your wet dream!! What kinda drugs you on?!

The only Grand National that had serious power/performance was the '87 GNX and it was still no where near 8 seconds, in stock form it wouldn't even see 12's

[2turbo4u]

LOLOLOL, then you wake up from your wet dream!! What kinda drugs you on?!

The only Grand National that had serious power/performance was the '87 GNX and it was still no where near 8 seconds, in stock form it wouldn't even see 12's

The one's that run 8 sec. doesn't look stock either! Big wheels for the giveaway.

[speedminded]

The one's that run 8 sec. doesn't look stock either! Big wheels for the giveaway.

no ****! Not to mention the sound of the idle of an 8 second domestic car...dead giveaway

A sleeper has the appearance of a stock car and normally one that is not known to be quick. I'm not saying it can't have a stock exhaust and just before launch open up the servo controlled cutout but sitting there hanging out it's gotta sound relatively stock.

[Doppelgänger]

lol @ the GN comment.

silly ricers trying to talk like they know cars.

[Elbow]

Nope, it is a Buick. IMO it's no sleeper because if you know about cars then you know it is a beast.

I know lol I was just playin with her. Someone I used to hang out with had a Grand National.

[spacelion]

You wanna see a sleeper, look at the first picture he posted or that last coupe.....

I know what a sleeper is, re-read the post you quoted from me.

[RUFFIAN]

Ultimate sleepers are wagons, period. (and that Nova above )

agreed!

[santacruz77]

the nova is cool and all but i would relize the fact it has huge rear tires lol

[I <3 my EF]

the nova is cool and all but i would relize the fact it has huge rear tires lol

And the roll cage.

[EJ25RUN]

This is the ultimate sleeper:
Outside

Under the hood:

1000+ HP and it runs mid 9s.

YES.

[gtikid]

Ultimate sleepers are wagons, period. (and that Nova above )

Like the guy on here with that Volvo Wagon

[gtikid]

I know what a sleeper is, re-read the post you quoted from me.

Wow, a swapped Honda

[spacelion]

Wow, a swapped Honda

All these cars are sleepers, doesn't matter if they have 200whp or 1000whp. If it looks like a regular beater or stock car but can do some damage, then it's a sleeper. GIVE IT UP.

[gtikid]

All these cars are sleepers, doesn't matter if they have 200whp or 1000whp. If it looks like a regular beater or stock car but can do some damage, then it's a sleeper. GIVE IT UP.

Some damage to what? Another Honda with bolt-ons? Oooooooo it can beat an I/H/E S2K

[spacelion]

Some damage to what? Another Honda with bolt-ons? Oooooooo it can beat an I/H/E S2K

Lol nah only to your stock 2dr Toyota Echo

[gtikid]

Lol nah only to your stock 2dr Toyota Echo

That didn't really make any sense, but LOL @ you for considering a car that can beat an Echo a "sleeper"

[AnthonyF]

i'd still race it. no traction with those ****ty ass tires. but if was able to modify the front suspension to run a shorter axle and tuck some 8-10" wide fronts....that'd be sick!!

[BUGMAN]

lol, the silver Miata is not mine. Mine is green. But that silver one has a 3:90 LSD rear end... bet your ass it hooks

What does the rear end have to do with hooking? Are you serious? It doesn't matter what rear end you have when you only have 500 lbs. on the rear axle with radial street tires you ain't going no where fast! Even with slicks your probably going to have issues.

Around 200whp in one of Honda's lightest bodies. That's the object of sleeper cars - surprise.

What are you going to surprise with 200 hp? A Miata maybe?

i'm sorry... but has anyone seen a grand national? they'll run mid 8's in the 1/4mi any day

I don't even know what to say to that.

LOLOLOL, then you wake up from your wet dream!! What kinda drugs you on?!

The only Grand National that had serious power/performance was the '87 GNX and it was still no where near 8 seconds, in stock form it wouldn't even see 12's

1984 Buick Regal T Type 8.0 15.9
1985 Buick Regal Grand National 7.5 15.7
1986 Buick Regal Grand National 4.9 13.9
1987 Buick Regal GNX 4.7 13.5

WTF? 8'S? Ha Ha Ha holy shiznit I wonder where he read that at?

Like the guy on here with that Volvo Wagon

No kidding... I have seen videos of a few Volvo wagons and that was the s h i t for a sleeper!

All these cars are sleepers, doesn't matter if they have 200whp or 1000whp. If it looks like a regular beater or stock car but can do some damage, then it's a sleeper. GIVE IT UP.

200hp and doing damage?

The Nova is pretty cool for a sleeper. The older Nova's, Camaros, Etc. owners mostly ran huge tires in their days and that guy looks like he is from those days. I would definitely call his azz out anytime just to get my azz handed to me but by the looks of the car and driver a lot of people would be fooled. There are 100's maybe 1000's of 13-16 second cars with roll cages and huge tires. Now the sound of a 8 second car just may give t away for anyone that knows anything about performance/power.

Not trying to start a flame war but dayum use your noggins a little bit.

JMO.

[gtikid]

The Bugman has spoken

[Doppelgänger]

What does the rear end have to do with hooking? Are you serious? It doesn't matter what rear end you have when you only have 500 lbs. on the rear axle with radial street tires you ain't going no where fast! Even with slicks your probably going to have issues.

I'll take into consideration your lack of knowlege about foreign cars, i'll explain it kindly. The Miata pictured weighs in at about 2500lb including a driver and full tank of gas. 2330 is the dry weight. Most Miatas have either a 4.10 or even a 4.30 rear.... which is way to short for one with that much power. Now getting the 3.90 LSD from a later model Miata effective makes 1st and 2nd gear longer, making launching easier and reducing wheel spin. The 3.90 is actaually a very tall gear on a 5-spd Miata..... kinda like putting a 3.6 in your mustang. Also, having a ligher weight car does not require having super large contact patch or super sticky tires. Why is it hard to get grip from a lightweight rear-wheel drive car?

[BUGMAN]

Why is it hard to get grip from a lightweight rear-wheel drive car?

Did you say rwd and lightweight?

If your talking about getting traction with a good tire @ 200 hp from a 70 mph roll then you may be just fine going that slow. But pulling up and surprising a "real" car with that then you should become a comedian.

[Doppelgänger]

Did you say rwd and lightweight?

If your talking about getting traction with a good tire @ 200 hp from a 70 mph roll then you may be just fine going that slow. But pulling up and surprising a "real" car with that then you should become a comedian.

oh, im not talking about a wimpy 200rwhp car at all sir. I was referring to the silver one i posted..340rwhp. My Miata is ~200rwhp.... and its fun and quick, but by no means fast. And since when is a 2300-2500 car considered heavy?

[BUGMAN]

oh, im not talking about a wimpy 200rwhp car at all sir. I was referring to the silver one i posted..340rwhp. My Miata is ~200rwhp.... and its fun and quick, but by no means fast. And since when is a 2300-2500 car considered heavy?

Okay since you have already gone astray and now changing things around let's make this simple as possible.

Where did I say 2,300-2,500 lb's was heavy? What are you smoking? I was agreeing with you and with it being light weight and rwd your gonna need something additional to get grip with no weight on the rear axle. Do you come on here and try to find something to argue about? It is common sense and simple physics.

The 200 hp is the one I was referring to as surprising someone at a red light.

The other one with the swapped axle is the one that I was referring to as having traction issues for the power range.

Man your getting this all twisted up... Whew.

[GangstaCoupe]

The thing I like best about that nova...


As for sleepers, this might be nice...

[GangstaCoupe]

[hXc007]

what engine is that in the volvo?

[BUGMAN]

what engine is that in the volvo?

Ford 302? looks like a 5.0 Mustang motor to me.

[hXc007]

Ford 302? looks like a 5.0 Mustang motor to me.

thanks

[SixSquared]

And the bugman has spoken... and regulated lol.

Enough with the pics... find videos... I can *place* a TT 427 jet in my s14... doesn't mean the **** runs lol.

I do wish, however, that I had my camera with me when I got my ass handed to me by what appeared to be just another silly ricer. This guy probably dropped like $500 at Pep Boys.... park bench wing, bullet hole stickers, bad LED's, APC stickers everywhere, carbon fiber stickers.... it was BAD... all on a 4 door 92 accord. At a light outside of Jefferson, he's all giving me looks in my old del Sol... Light turned and I took off. He's nowhere to be seen, so I just kinda keep going. Next thing I know, dude FLIES by, and all I hear is the all-too familiar turbo whine and BOV... turned out under that riced out POS looking hood was a nicely built H22 turbo. Intercooler painted black, I got pwned. Now THAT'S a sleeper lol.

[JITB]

as bad as it sounds, its almost hard to have a sleeper nowadays. That volvo wouldnt fool me, its too clean to be slow...lol

[Brown Man]

sleeper my ass, that front mount gives it all away...lol

[GangstaCoupe]

03 4 door caddy with a 572, put an exhaust on it with some electric cut outs.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2lM5...eature=related

[3.5altman]

sleepers ftw

[speedminded]

03 4 door caddy with a 572, put an exhaust on it with some electric cut outs.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2lM5...eature=related

lol. carburetted at that I wanna hear it going through the full exhaust!

Caddy under hood view... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl-XS4_9jU

[DrivenMind]

the green civics game would be up real fast.

a) the gigantic FMIC gives the game away.
b) those rinky dink ass front tires would rather spin their silly asses into oblivion, than actually put that power to the ground and move the car.

[The BUCKY]

caddy is pimp ****

[bigdare23]

Everyone keep saying that the intercooler gives away the sleeper status on the green eg BS.Why? Because if you was in a parking lot with that car you would overlook it because it looks trashy. And if he pulled up to you on the highway, you wouldn't be able to see the intercooler anyways.

Also, you dont need 100000038354u93248054909f0Hp to be a sleeper. A sleeper is a car that would catch you off guard. That EF is a sleeper, because you would never expect a high 12's (low 13's) 1/4mile out of a car that looks bone stock, with factory hubcaps, that run 17's stock.

[OTG Signs]

That huge ass front mount = not a sleeper

[JITB]

Everyone keep saying that the intercooler gives away the sleeper status on the green eg BS.Why? Because if you was in a parking lot with that car you would overlook it because it looks trashy. And if he pulled up to you on the highway, you wouldn't be able to see the intercooler anyways.

Also, you dont need 100000038354u93248054909f0Hp to be a sleeper. A sleeper is a car that would catch you off guard. That EF is a sleeper, because you would never expect a high 12's (low 13's) 1/4mile out of a car that looks bone stock, with factory hubcaps, that run 17's stock.

dont matter what kind of honda it is, sleeper status is gonna be hard

THEYVE BEEN EXPOSED!!

[BUGMAN]

That EF is a sleeper, because you would never expect a high 12's (low 13's) 1/4mile out of a car that looks bone stock, with factory hubcaps, that run 17's stock.

If it runs those times then it would definitely catch a good bit of people off guard including me. Not sure how many it would smoke from a red light but impressive none the less.