was it pewter? i raced one of those on dunahoo that was a four door dunno if it was a SI and he was talking so much **** then i whooped him, it was great, and no, not everyone talks **** about them, just the people that are richer than hell and hold grudges cause they think i'm flirting with their girlfriends lol, and they think they're "girl cars" the new SI's are slow..i've seen a ss/sc vs a new SI at the track, ss/sc ran 14.0, SI ran a 15.5, i figured they'd be faster but they're about the same as a type-S.