My MR2 Project

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by TIGERJC

rich

is it the air sensor that is the big difference between the gen 2 and gen 3 motors (just the motor). I honestly cannot remember

2nd Gen............................3rd Gen
AFM..................................MAP Sensor
N/A...................................Larger bore in fuel rail
440cc Injectors...................550cc injectors
N/A...................................re-located oil filter
11 psi stock........................13 psi stock
CT-26 Turbo.......................CT-20B Turbo
8 runner intake manifold........4 runner intake manifold (no TVIS)
N/A...................................Higher lift intake cam

That is all I remember right now.

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by TIGERJC

I would not go with a rom tune, every mr2 motor is different (just save up for a standalone)

No problem with the ROM tune. I worked it out with ATS and they sent me out a base tune. I dyno'd the car and sent them the info. They tweaked the tune and sent me a new chip. This was all included in the initial cost.

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 11:59 AM

I know u guys are gonna think this was dumb but....

i ordered 3" dual exhaust that looks a lot like the TKO. I don't have exhaust and have already spent more money than i have on buying the car, getting it running and making it able to be Daily driven...

So i ran accross XS Power Dual Exhaust (SSAutoChrome) and ordered it.... $220 shipped! Thats 1/4th of the cost of the TKO but i just needed something so i dont get pulled over.

Am i gonna regret buying this exhaust??? lol

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by richw131

The stock ECU will add lots of timing when you tweak the tune via the SAFC. There have been a few successes, but many, many bad endings.

My path to what he is looking for, power wise is:

ATS CT27 Turbo
ATS Cam Gears
ATS ROM Tuned ECU
ATS Bored out fuel rail
ATS modified fuel pressure regulator
HKS 264/256 Cams
KO Racing TKO 2.5" Exhaust w/7" Cans
KO Racing DP
Blitz SBC-iD Boost Controller
Apex-i Intake
SPEC Stage II Clutch

Dyno'd @ 260 rwhp (90 degrees air temp) @ 15 psi

I had an ST205 A2W IC ready to install, and was planning on running at 17 psi which was expected to yield ~280rwhp.

This would be a safe and reliable setup.

Do it right. Don't use SAFC.

Edited my post. Forgot two items (bolded above).

**Spektrewing386** · 10-19-2007, 12:03 PM

SSautochrome is S****
if you want 280whp a ATS ct27 will spool fast and give you your goal

**TIGERJC** · 10-19-2007, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by richw131

2nd Gen............................3rd Gen
AFM..................................MAP Sensor
N/A...................................Larger bore in fuel rail
440cc Injectors...................550cc injectors
N/A...................................re-located oil filter
11 psi stock........................13 psi stock
CT-26 Turbo.......................CT-20B Turbo
8 runner intake manifold........4 runner intake manifold (no TVIS)
N/A...................................Higher lift intake cam

That is all I remember right now.

thanks the map sensor allows the 3rd gen to do well on piggy backs

I really wish I still had the passion to finish the car, but I am done with mr2 for now

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by ©hris

I know u guys are gonna think this was dumb but....

i ordered 3" dual exhaust that looks a lot like the TKO. I don't have exhaust and have already spent more money than i have on buying the car, getting it running and making it able to be Daily driven...

So i ran accross XS Power Dual Exhaust (SSAutoChrome) and ordered it.... $220 shipped! Thats 1/4th of the cost of the TKO but i just needed something so i dont get pulled over.

Am i gonna regret buying this exhaust??? lol

I have no experience with SSautochrome.

I will just give you the following info:

If it was my car, I would buy the TKO with no questions asked. It is an amazing sounding exhaust that make very good power. I had it on my black MR2 and bought the same one for the white MR2 I had.

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:07 PM

Rich u had an HKS SSQ right???

did u stall out or have jerking probs???

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by ©hris

Rich u had an HKS SSQ right???

did u stall out or have jerking probs???

Yes, I had the HKS.

No stalling problems, just need to adjust the spring properly.

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by richw131

I have no experience with SSautochrome.

I will just give you the following info:

If it was my car, I would buy the TKO with no questions asked. It is an amazing sounding exhaust that make very good power. I had it on my black MR2 and bought the same one for the white MR2 I had.

here is a photo of the XS Power exhaust i ordered....

**Mike Lowrey** · 10-19-2007, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by ©hris

here is a photo of the XS Power exhaust i ordered....

It's gonna be loud. The smaller the cans, the louder the exhaust. I liked the 7" cans on the TKO because it was slightly louder than stock (although a lot lower tone) at idle, but screamed when @ WOT.

**PSINXS** · 10-19-2007, 12:12 PM

nothing wrong with an ss autochrome exhaust. not much for them to **** up. ppl run those exhausts in the 240 world and for the buy they say it is great. only thing to worry about is fitment but SSAC has been better on QC from what i hear.

DO NOT BUY turbos, BOVs, cams, wastegates, injectors from them. anything that has working parts inside or a very vital part of your motor is not a good move.

**Tank** · 10-19-2007, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by PSINXS

nothing wrong with an ss autochrome exhaust. not much for them to **** up. ppl run those exhausts in the 240 world and for the buy they say it is great. only thing to worry about is fitment but SSAC has been better on QC from what i hear.

DO NOT BUY turbos, BOVs, cams, wastegates, injectors from them. anything that has working parts inside or a very vital part of your motor is not a good move.

they sell a nice knock-off of the one chris has pictured for a good price i talked to another member of hte mr2 board awhile back and he runs it says its loud but nice sounding

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Tank

they sell a nice knock-off of the one chris has pictured for a good price i talked to another member of hte mr2 board awhile back and he runs it says its loud but nice sounding

hehe well its on its way to my house and AAP still has not started on my car so i'll have time more than likely to take it up there and have them bolt it up before i pick up the car.

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:25 PM

There is a sound clip on Youtube of the exhaust and the first 2 cars sound ok but the 3rd MR2 is ****ing DEEP as hell

**TIGERJC** · 10-19-2007, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by ©hris

hehe well its on its way to my house and AAP still has not started on my car so i'll have time more than likely to take it up there and have them bolt it up before i pick up the car.

putting on your exhaust is not hard at all. I rather pay someone on the side to do that simply job then to spend more for a shop to do it

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:33 PM

well i just didnt want to drive it home w/ open D/P. i can install it no prob but.... i have no tag, no emissions, no insurance, no registration, no title, etc.... and no front blinkers until its home.....

lol just didnt want to attract a lot of attention running open D/P

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 12:37 PM

im definatly getting way ahead of myself lol i just want the car to hurry up and get out of the shop so i can drive it.....

i even ****ing had a dream about it last night lol

**drmcivicsi** · 10-19-2007, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by ©hris

well i just didnt want to drive it home w/ open D/P. i can install it no prob but.... i have no tag, no emissions, no insurance, no registration, no title, etc.... and no front blinkers until its home.....

lol just didnt want to attract a lot of attention running open D/P

i hope u mean u are going to drive it to a trailer to get it home

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 02:27 PM

well by the time they are done with it... i'll have a temporary tag, insurance, Bill of sale, exhaust and blinkers....

went up there today and they havnt even started on it

**Alan®** · 10-19-2007, 03:01 PM

damn when are they gonna start on it

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 03:12 PM

There is a black MR2 they are swaping a 3rd gen into... They said he was gonna be done with that on wed and prob start mine on Thursday. Well when i stopped by today i saw the black MR2 up on a lift and mine sitting in the same spot its been in since monday. soooo i dunno

**Alan®** · 10-19-2007, 03:16 PM

man that car has been ther for like the past month cause it was just sittin there when tank and i went up there abouta month ago to drop of the ccw's. its black with chrome rims right?

**puregroove** · 10-19-2007, 03:17 PM

Saw you on Pleasant Hill yesterday.. car looks mean.

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by redGT

man that car has been ther for like the past month cause it was just sittin there when tank and i went up there abouta month ago to drop of the ccw's. its black with chrome rims right?

think so....

**©hris** · 10-19-2007, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by puregroove

Saw you on Pleasant Hill yesterday.. car looks mean.

Thanks bro... unfortunatly its all bark and no bite..... actually no bark just likes to show its teeth lol

**©hris** · 10-22-2007, 12:14 PM

Dropped it off last monday and went up there today to see if the front blinkers i ordered fit...

The car has not moved since i dropped it off

**drmcivicsi** · 10-22-2007, 12:18 PM

that sucks should have done it urself its easy just takes time =)

**©hris** · 10-22-2007, 12:25 PM

yeah i know... I was just hoping that a shop could knock it out real fast. They told me it woulda been done by today or tomorrow. I know that there are other cars that were there before me and need to be finished before mine gets in to be started but if i woulda known it was gonna sit this long i woulda taken it to Batlground.

**cxpilot22** · 10-22-2007, 03:01 PM

car looks hot

**©hris** · 10-22-2007, 03:07 PM

:boobies: ^^^^ thanks bro!

btw just talked to AAP and its going in right now....

:idb:

**©hris** · 10-31-2007, 02:42 PM

ITS ALIVE!!!!!! MUAAHAHAHHAHAAA

**©hris** · 10-31-2007, 02:44 PM

Tom called me today from R2B2 and I can hear a very deep sounding rumble in the backround.... he said, "You hear that motor running in the backround??" i said... oh god please be what i think it is.... he said... THATS YOUR CAR!!!! im like ...

OH SHEIT!!!

**mocha latte cupcake** · 10-31-2007, 06:40 PM

OH SNAP! thats crazy! MO BOOST FO MY MR NEGRO!

**Truegiant** · 10-31-2007, 07:34 PM

good stuff. I cant wait to see it around..

**cdhtang** · 11-01-2007, 12:20 AM

any news? I always love to see people's build thread.

**©hris** · 11-01-2007, 08:34 AM

gonna go up there today and check it out.

**Mi6o** · 11-01-2007, 09:55 AM

so Chris, what u gonna do with your civic?

**©hris** · 11-01-2007, 09:58 AM

not real sure yet... i would like to sell it and take that $400/mon and put it towards a house. But it would be so hard for me to sell it

**Nismo** · 11-01-2007, 11:00 AM

Wait wait wait, your paying 400 a month for a civic? Did they see you coming from like 5 miles away?

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