you use amps with your mids and highs as well?
Retail they are way overpriced

I perosnally like Pioneer units for sound quality for me, but i also use crazy expensive mids and highs( when i got em) amps on mids and highs etc etc. Ive never seen the appeal with eclipse, i had one of their Double Din units (got it at cost), and ended up trading it for hte clarion