Best subwoofers?

**MachNU** · 03-08-2006, 09:11 AM

Name the best subwoofers out there, you know like Lighting, MA, JL, and so on......i am trying to get the opinions of what people think are the best out there!

**B16a2 Civic** · 03-08-2006, 09:15 AM

Audiobahn flame series....to be, it hits hard but wont hit ya pocket too hard

**JustinSane110™** · 03-08-2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by B16a2 Civic

Audiobahn flame series....to be, it hits hard but wont hit ya pocket too hard

Yeah, they'll hit hard, but it'll be full of distortion. They generally dont handle the amount of power they claim to either. But it's all gonna come down to how much you're willing to spend TransAxle.

**B16a2 Civic** · 03-08-2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by JustinSane110

Yeah, they'll hit hard, but it'll be full of distortion. They generally dont handle the amount of power they claim to either. But it's all gonna come down to how much you're willing to spend TransAxle.

true, these lil MTX 8000 Thunders are straight, i had some audiobahn flame q's
1500 watt peak but i only pushed 600 watt to each one with 2 amps, it hit real hard...im thinkin about gettin them again
but yeah like my homie said, its about what you wanna spend
Eclipse is good, if you got the money

**Boosted S60R** · 03-08-2006, 10:52 AM

I think JL is the best. Even though some peeps say they are a little high priced you get what you pay for with jl quality good sound and lots of output.

**JustinSane110™** · 03-08-2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by BOOSTED S60R

I think JL is the best. Even though some peeps say they are a little high priced you get what you pay for with jl quality good sound and lots of output.

**Sammich** · 03-08-2006, 11:56 AM

best bang for buck IMO solobarics

**MachNU** · 03-08-2006, 12:15 PM

yeah i have two MA12D4 series from maauido, which one sub will push 130 on the spl chart at only 800-1000 watts. I just have an argument with a friend this morning on what the best speakers out there where. So like so far people say JL but ihave heard Lighting is some of the strongest shit on the block!

**Boosted S60R** · 03-08-2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by TransAxle

yeah i have two MA12D4 series from maauido, which one sub will push 130 on the spl chart at only 800-1000 watts. I just have an argument with a friend this morning on what the best speakers out there where. So like so far people say JL but ihave heard Lighting is some of the strongest shit on the block!

well drop by mall of georgia hifi buys some time and listen to my W7 and see what you think.

**MachNU** · 03-08-2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by BOOSTED S60R

well drop by mall of georgia hifi buys some time and listen to my W7 and see what you think.

BUHAHAHHAHAHA i was just there a few days ago when i bought positive and negative terminals for my speakers boxes!!!!!

**Allstar3.8T** · 03-08-2006, 12:49 PM

For shear volume/SPL I say JLW7s... for overall SQ& SPL its all Diamond Audio for me.

**JustinSane110™** · 03-08-2006, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by BOOSTED S60R

well drop by mall of georgia hifi buys some time and listen to my W7 and see what you think.

W7's FTW!!

I made the switch from 2 15" L7 solobarics, to 2 13W7's about a year and a half ago and havent looked back since. So if you can hold off and save up the cash then I'd say shoot for the W7's.

**aaronfelipe** · 03-08-2006, 01:06 PM

Alpine?
Jackhammer???

**GsrTurbo320** · 03-08-2006, 01:15 PM

I use alpine or JL audio.

**MachNU** · 03-08-2006, 01:20 PM

lol no one has said boston accustics or kicker!!!!!

jackhammer doesnt count!!!!!

**sina518** · 03-08-2006, 05:13 PM

im down with diamond or mtx. diamond always has that clean sound and its prolly the only thing with 3 years of warrenty. and the material they are made from. good prices too

**BanginJimmy** · 03-08-2006, 06:37 PM

best sub on the market for what tye of use?

SPL: Digital Designs
SQ: ID Max or Focal
SQL: W7, XXX, tumult, MTX 9500

**Mpatient** · 03-08-2006, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by TransAxle

Name the best subwoofers out there, you know like Lighting, MA, JL, and so on......i am trying to get the opinions of what people think are the best out there!

The best hands down is JL Audio. the W7 is pound for pund the best sub on the market, I will only ever own JL, the quality and there technology is way ahead of the rest.

**DP97ACCORDLX** · 03-08-2006, 06:45 PM

I have DB Drive platinum series 15's....very satisfied. I agree about Diamond Audio and JL...good shit. Memphis and Kicker as well

**BanginJimmy** · 03-08-2006, 07:21 PM

Most mainstream subs are more show than go. There are exceptions though, JL W6v2 and W7, Diamond M6's and TDX's, Kicker L7 gets very loud for lower SPL classes. I'm more into the lesser known brands though. Resonant Engineering, Adire, Image Dynamics, Shocker Audio and Digital Designsare some of my favorites. I always thought it was funny to see peoples reactions when I burped my XXX's. No one has ever heard of Resonant Engineering, but everyone has heard of W7's. Well at a show last year my 2 XXX's tuned to 38hz was 2.6 DB louder than a certain shops install with 3 W7 13's and 3 1000/1's.

excuse my rant, and I'm not knocking the W7, in fact its one of my favorite subs.

Oh and as a rule, with no exceptions there is no best sub or best anything in car audio. Every situation is different. SOme products are better than others, but there isnt a single product that does everything the best.

**rollininstyle2004** · 03-08-2006, 07:41 PM

I agree with pretty much everything BanginJimmy said.

SPL: RE MT, Brahma Extremes (cant really get them though...Scottie J special), DD 9515
SQ: Focal, ID, Arc
SQL: JL, ID, Arc, Diamond

Thoose are just a few off the top of my head...there are many more...

**JASONBALL** · 03-08-2006, 08:58 PM

the funny thing is that JL subs and car audio was designed for SQ and not SPL but there subs are so kick ass. That people see it the other way. just food for thought.

**sina518** · 03-08-2006, 09:03 PM

who makes the xxx

**BanginJimmy** · 03-08-2006, 09:20 PM

resonant engineering makes the XXX

**MachNU** · 03-08-2006, 10:02 PM

Yeah i am still an MA Audio fan seeing as how they beat out all sound people in 2004 National Sound Competition. But right know with just the MA12D4 x2 i will probably hit around 200+ SPL, but this summer when i go fiberglass i am going to go with there Quaker Series which are dam dam dam dam dam hard to get, have to special order them from MA, they are 12's at 3000 peak watt and 1500rms and i will have two of them!!!!!!

But all this was for the sake of seeing what peoples opinions are, since a friend and i where wanting to see who thought what was best!

**Allstar3.8T** · 03-08-2006, 10:34 PM

Honestly, 9/10 people cant tell which sub is better because thier enclosure isnt up to par. If I put a crappy sub in a great box, it'll out perform a great sub in a leaky/inadequate box. I have a single 8" that is louder, deaper and more musical than most peoples 2 10"s...why, because enclosure design is VERY important, and I over-build.

**BanginJimmy** · 03-08-2006, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Allstar3.8T

Honestly, 9/10 people cant tell which sub is better because thier enclosure isnt up to par. If I put a crappy sub in a great box, it'll out perform a great sub in a leaky/inadequate box. I have a single 8" that is louder, deaper and more musical than most peoples 2 10"s...why, because enclosure design is VERY important, and I over-build.

very good point

**Allstar3.8T** · 03-08-2006, 10:47 PM

Also MTX 9500s...
check this out;
http://www.mtx.com/caraudio/headtohead/w7.cfm

**BanginJimmy** · 03-08-2006, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by TransAxle

Yeah i am still an MA Audio fan seeing as how they beat out all sound people in 2004 National Sound Competition. But right know with just the MA12D4 x2 i will probably hit around 200+ SPL, but this summer when i go fiberglass i am going to go with there Quaker Series which are dam dam dam dam dam hard to get, have to special order them from MA, they are 12's at 3000 peak watt and 1500rms and i will have two of them!!!!!!!

I really hope you are kidding here but I will not assume anything

1. no one has broken 200db
2. 3kw to a pair of subs is nothing. I know people giving over 6kw to a single 10. SPL only enclosure and DD 9510
3. what the hell is the national sound competition

**v3rd1g0** · 03-08-2006, 11:54 PM

lol he probably added the sensitvity of the two subs together then added more b/c of the glass enclosure...

**MachNU** · 03-09-2006, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by BanginJimmy

I really hope you are kidding here but I will not assume anything

1. no one has broken 200db
2. 3kw to a pair of subs is nothing. I know people giving over 6kw to a single 10. SPL only enclosure and DD 9515
3. what the hell is the national sound competition

alright maybe not 200 but it should be dam close with 1 sub hitting 130 by itself, in a shitty trunk and a shitty built box, know with two of them in a dynamatted trunk with a box built perfectly to the speakers air space specification, so i should get a pretty good amount out of it!

also heres for your third question http://www.nsplcompetition.com/index-10.cfm gives you all the records so far, with each class and events and such. I am still trying to find the website that does it by makes to see which one is the best.

**BanginJimmy** · 03-09-2006, 09:17 AM

damn those are low scores for world records. DB Drag world record is 178.* and combined finals record was 181 I believe.

**BanginJimmy** · 03-09-2006, 09:19 AM

oh and doubling something will give you an average SPL increase of 3db. So with a well built box, double cone area, double power and deadened truck You will gain somewhere in the area of 8-10 db. Not 70 db.

**MachNU** · 03-09-2006, 12:33 PM

only 8-10 wow i find that hard to believe! but i will find out when i get them tested!

**v3rd1g0** · 03-09-2006, 12:43 PM

lol i'm pretty sure banginjimmy knows what he's talking about. in the picsof your set up thread he's got a few trophies lol

**Allstar3.8T** · 03-10-2006, 09:33 AM

Bangin is rioght , Double speaker cone size is +3db. Then, double power to all subs, thats 3 more db. If it was only about $, someone would have hit 200 by now. Its about science. The wall at 150 db took years to get by, the one at 180 even longer. 200 is virtually unreachable.
Also, ALOT of local people w/ 150 db cars were NOT measured on a good A weighted meter, so IMO, they dont count, Try it on a good RTA and see a low 140...that what they actually have anyway.

**Allstar3.8T** · 03-10-2006, 09:35 AM

I have seen 2 10"s do 150+ db in a CRX, I had eight 12s do mid 150s in a civic I had. The diff is the crx pressured up, and was pretty loud. Mine was REAL loud, but wouldnt hold pressure for crap. If it sounds loud, you are only halfway there, its gotta hold the pressure as well.

**Jdm94Coupe** · 03-10-2006, 10:24 AM

Well I had 2 Solobaric X's in my civic and dey was str8 FIRE!......it has a lot to do w/ what amp you using and what box..... my boi brandon has a yukon denali w/ 3 jl w6v2's with 1 jl 1000/1 but i GUARANTEE you find nobody beatin harder wit 2 w7's...... it has a lot to do with other factors too.....

but it like
w7's.......w6v2's
kicker solobaric l7's and solo x's
audiobahn has good shit
mtx has like one bad ass sub, lol
memphis has good shit too

**MachNU** · 03-10-2006, 10:47 AM

yeah, well i guess i will hit somewhere between 140-150 is my guess. It wont be until this summer when i really go for the big leagues with true true competition subs, but i will pay some people to built the works for me, that way its all done right to the t!

**Jdm94Coupe** · 03-10-2006, 10:59 AM

audio concepts in conyers does da damn thang!

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