Thanks, ones a subthump stealthbox (passenger side) normally used for convertible F-bodies and the others a standard driverside stealth box. Verts can't use the reg. driverside because the top motor is in that hole on those cars. They have about .6-.7 cubic ft. of airspace...just enough for a sealed enclosure. Plus I don't lose my T-top storage as I have T-top holders back there from the factory...be a shame not to be able to use them on a sunny day!! Just outa curiousity what does the average installer make money wise? I've been doin this for 18 years for friends, relatives, and myself but never for a living. I see guys like Remy on Unique Whips and think damn maybe that could've been me. Not camparing myself to him..that guys pretty damn talented..but if I did it for a living who knows although I'm sure there are a lot of talented guys out there like him and Mad Mike at W.C.C. What does the AVERAGE guy make puttin in stereos, amp installs, subs, speakers, etc.??