Please look or listen to any of b@d @pple's builds and tell me it "brings the fail"
I'm sorry to say but if you answer honestly, the answer is NO.
Please look or listen to any of b@d @pple's builds and tell me it "brings the fail"
I'm sorry to say but if you answer honestly, the answer is NO.
thanks homieOriginally Posted by drpepper14
i have 3 old jl 8w3s in my s2k..24 inches of cone area
About 474 sq in of cone area(for all three).
Single 15'' is about 555 sq in.
Single 18'' is about 800 sq in.
Kevin
yea considering the cone is probably close to 5.5..you are correct
I might also add that usually "tuning" goes along with the enclosure size, the woofer going into that box will change how I would tune the box. Also the car it is going into can change the tuning, where at in the vehicle the box is placed in the vehicle can change the tuning. Also one of the more important variables is the goal you are going for. I have had some people want a box that can get as loud as possible and do not mind if it is boomy or sloppy to achieve it, and then there are people that are the opposite and will sacrifice output for a flatter response. I have even built boxes that were 15 cubic feet with a port opening so large that you can climb into the box, and believe me it was such a "one note wander" it is not even funny, but that is what the person wanted. There is so much you can do with the enclosure and port to alter the sound of ANY speaker to make it sound a particular way to fit a person's desired sound, and while a lot of times a manufacturers suggested box is great it is not always what the customer wants, which doesnt mean any are wrong, as long as the customer "or person" with the box likes it and thinks that it sounds good "to their liking", and does what it was asked to do from the beginning, and not allow the speaker to be torn to shreds, then it is right.
On a side note a little too late now but hey whatever, $200 for a properly built and tuned TL box is stupid cheap.
Now why A simple question of is RE audio any good turned into a 5 page debate is beyond me, but I do know I have seen and read just in this thread alone at least 5 professionals with roughly at LEAST 10 years experience EACH try to educate others on our "opinions" and knowledge we have all learned throughout the years, and while some of us may have different opinions of what sounds good to our personal tastes or likings I would assume that if anyone came to any of us professionals and talked with us about what YOU want, then chances are I am sure we could all make you happy, and get you there, so there is a reason we are "professionals", and our prices are so not the cheap ass price of FREE that you get from forum trolling. Now dont get me wrong while I can not speak for everyone I do not mind trying to help people out on here or any other forums and give my opinion, and I would assume most of the other pros dont either, but when argued with that we are wrong or do not know what we are doing it makes helping others pretty difficult.
While I understand what you are saying that a 10 sounds like a 10 is true because hey it is a 10 and not a 5 X 7 or whatever, I am sure everyone on here knows what was meant to be the understanding of that statement, which is that someone "like badapple" who knows what they are doing can make lower end equipment sound better than higher end equipment installed by someone who doesnt know what they are doing.
And oh yeah that Scion TC referred to earlier I built the box for that car, when it was in the original car that sub could keep up with and sound good while playing metal "again only an opinion of mine", and furthermore like someone else stated at that competition it was in another vehicle than the one the shop built and wired wrong from where the customer tried to do it them self, and the customer only had one voice coil wired up. So when it was only a couple DB quieter than you it was only running on one coil and obviously half power (750 watts +/-), so I would have to say I wouldn't bash on Memphis too hard there.
I am sorry for rambling on and hope not to offend anyone, but really when people ask for help or advice and you see a professional trying to help someone else out, you should probably let them
Unbelievable still trying to correct someone else's math. yes you are right 3 8" woofers is not 24" of cone area, however I am trying to figure out where you got your numbers from. To figure out surface area of a circle you do pie X r sq. r=radius =half the diameter, half of 8" (not counting screws and surround) is 4, 4 sq = 16 X 3.14(pie)=50.24X3(woofers)=150.72,, where do you get 474??
Shit, my bad. The irony of me posting that while I was sitting in math class lol. I fucked up the equation lol, but yeah that is what I was trying to get at.
I laugh every time I think of that box....tried looking for the picture of your daughter standing in the prot, but couldnt find it.
2007, 2008, & 2009 IASCA National SQi Champion Pro Ultimate
Total of 5 National Sound Quality Championships.
I just picked up me SE series subs I will let you guys know what I think of them. I am taking out interfire pro-v subs and switching to RE. I have 7.2 cubes plus port. I think that it will hit ok.
this is going in my 92 burban
4 RE se 12's
2 powerbass 3000 mono blocks
300 amp alternator
1 yellow top under the hood
2 red tops in the back
30 farad for voltage reading only
it should do something I am going to ditch the optimas and go with an excess power here soon. We will see though I have to bracket for dual alt. set up but I am uncertain if running two different voltage alts will hurt anything I am looking into that now.
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i was more or less just saying i like 8s in multiples
I know everything about everything. Just as I knew that info would be relevant to this thread.
i need to know some songs that i can get good numbers on i peak at 52 hz any one know of songs that get this high?
Originally Posted by carheadman
ok kimbo slice bring your bananas bitch.
if you are really looking for numbers, get a Db Drag or MECA Bass Mekanik CD. They both have songs with upper as well as lower frequencies (everything from 15hz up to the high 70's) as well as just straight tones.
i just wasted 15 minutes of my life. we have 3 professionals that have done this for over 10 years and have built some kick ass sound systems. and a 18 year old fuck nut that thinks he is knowledgeable about anything car audio related. unbelievable!!!
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lolz...you're a fast reader.
to whom is this msg being directed to ?
ok kimbo slice bring your bananas bitch.
I assume that would be me lol. Not you, don't worry.
Kevin
Interesting. Seems like you blatantly call me out, but what do I know. Whatever dude. Thanks for trying to start shit. And "calm the fuck down"? I am pretty sure I haven't been heated in any of these posts. Thanks for the advice though. I won't address you further more but feel free to respond to this post if you wish.
Kevin
yea you and whoever else thinks they have a lot of knowledge about car audio because they take a interest in it and researched the forums for the last 2 years.
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lol most of those who have "Researched" the forums for the past 2 years probably have more knowledge on product design, specs, installation tips tricks and know how than you do lol. I think its funny, that you feel it necessary to talk trash in a car audio thread about people who talk about car audio. grow up.
about the guy asking about running different voltage alts, yes it will destroy them, now running different amp alts idk. but I'd assume if you do not hook up the two alts to a common battery bank it shouldn't be a problem. say a 130 amp alt on your front battery, and take the power wire you ran to the back batteries and hook it up to the charging stud on the 300 amp alt. so that the front battery gets charged by the oem alt. and the car audio batts get charged by the 300 amp alt. as long as the two alts do not share any batteries. ie front to back batteries you will be fine. like wise on the voltage difference's too. if you run 16 volt batteries in back, and run a 16 volt alt. run an oem beside it. and hook 16 volt alt to those 16 volt batts and nothing else. and oem to stock front battery.
Mods- High flow cat, Flowmaster stage 2 exhaust, Intake, Lots of wiring upgrades, h/o alt, 2 18's walled, off 8000 rms custom interior VERY LOUD (152.3) on music and a 156.6 outlaw.( system sounds alot like this!!!
^^^^ alright car audio fan! from all the people on import atlanta your opinion is the last one i give a fuck about. you have no clue who i am, what i do, what i have done, or the people who taught me how to do it. i never came on here and said i know more. honestly i don't give a fuck, the questions you dumb fucks ask entertain me thats why i feel the need to put in my two cents and make fun of you. half of you are running the wall mart special and are worried about what kind of capacitors, how many batteries and how big of an alternator you need to have because the lights in your 1992 honda civic or chevy trail blazer go dim. seriously!!!!!!!! some on here know im knowledgeable to a extent and i help people that ask legitimate questions and are looking for real answers. Now if you will excuse me i have to go hook up my home theater system to my car for the up coming SQ competition. some one on here told me thats the way to go if you want to get some real point! What do you think?????
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I think I am speechless.........
Kevin
I will say that Sina knows his shit and has helped me on more than a few occasions while I was still playing with audio.
Thanks jimmy but I like everyone else didn't know shit 6 years ago, and still to this day don't know a whole lot i just know basics. But people like Justin Marks and John Marsh and Mike Bailey were the people who taught me what i know and instead of thinking i know better than them i listened to them. Justin probably more than everyone else because he made me get hands on even though i was scared as shit. so it just annoys me when people come on here and ask a question and somebody like justin or john or mike shares there years of knowledge and experience that they have and some one else with a third of the knowledge comes and says "no your wrong". I mean, the kid is trying to convince ppl that home audio is ideal for a SQ car, and then wonders why a person like john marsh who is a multiple SQ champion in a ultimate class disagrees with them.
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Is this directed towards me? I am pretty sure I didn't say anything of the sort but If I did then I'll eat my words. Seriously, If that is directed towards me, then I really want you to back it up.
Go back and look through the thread. It started out as a simple question about RE audio. I shared MY experience with them. I did not claim for them to be the best, or even a contender for sq or spl competitions. Some other people did say they are "the best" and "zomg XXX" and what not.
I never said anyone was "wrong", so thanks for putting words in my mouth.
And yes, I do spend a lot of time(probably too much lol) fucking around on car audio forums. Whats the big deal? There is shit to learn from people all over the world. There is also no better place to find the old used equipment that you're looking for. I am always skeptical of everything I read online and I do contain my own opinions about everything. It is no different then all of us car guys being on IA. I just join them to see what else is out there and to get help with products directly from the manufacture when needed. I have still been to most of the shops in the area to see what is going on locally.
Trust me when I say that if I had the money to have the guys at American Radio work on my car, I would not hesitate to. I have met all of them over there with the exception of scott p. Great guys, awesome shop with honestly good prices on equipment. I always support them when I need my shit. About a month ago I had my friend run up to American Radio looking for two specialty cables for some older Alpine headunits and John didn't have them in stock at the moment. Needless to say that he had them the very next morning and I got a phone call letting me know about it.
In the end I really don't even remember what we are arguing about anymore. I tried to keep my nose out of this thread but your direct attack on me pulled me back in.
Kevin
first off non of this is directed towards you so calm the fuck down. all my post are very general and are not a direct hit towards anyone. including lovinmydodge or whatever. money is not the issue there is more satisfaction in LEARNING how to do it yourself as oppose to paying someone to do it. its not about the products or any of that is was more about when someone says something on here and actually knows what they are saying others tend to argue and debate the subject. Ya dig???? im sure at some point you will become a great installer and very knowledgeable yourself.
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^^^ here ill help you. go do some research..
http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/
http://www.fiberglassforums.com/
http://www.diymobileaudio.com/
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its funny your defense was that we know nothing of your knowledge, yet you assume ours. LOL. i think that if you really want to talk. one day face to face we can, and then ur E-Thug-ness wont matter lol. I know what I need to to do what I want my systems to do
Mods- High flow cat, Flowmaster stage 2 exhaust, Intake, Lots of wiring upgrades, h/o alt, 2 18's walled, off 8000 rms custom interior VERY LOUD (152.3) on music and a 156.6 outlaw.( system sounds alot like this!!!
Hey dude, good to meet you the other day. you coming to Gwinnett Fairgrounds this weekend? its the shakedown run for the MINI
^^^^ you want to talk face to face oh yea?????????? are you that butt hurt about the situation?, trust me you don't want to talk to me face to face im not a pleasant person. i am probably more nice on the internet then i ever would be standing in front of you.
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lol, i guess it was directed towards you. sorry man!
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Not a problem.
I just believe everyone in this industry has something to learn from someone else and the gaining knowledge should always be a positive experience. It is impossible for one person to know everything about every car(and the install characteristics that go along with that car) and every product out there on the market. I got a few tricks up my sleeve but nothing that I believe that compares to John's, Scott's, Audio Wiz, and the other pros mentioned/involved in this thread. I can bang out a quality constructed box and have had great success(in my opinion, and the opinion of those who receive my boxes) with the enclosures that I have created.
Kevin
My apartment smells of rich mahogany.
I have many leather-bound books.
2007, 2008, & 2009 IASCA National SQi Champion Pro Ultimate
Total of 5 National Sound Quality Championships.
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