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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    So now the dems might get thier way and tax us working people even more. Like 40-50% tax isnt enough allready.
    Wars do cost a lot of money dont they? How else do we pay for troops, equipment, etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTScoob
    Wars do cost a lot of money dont they? How else do we pay for troops, equipment, etc?

    ok if we need to tax that hgih of precent.. why the hell are people making a 25K a year geting taxed around 20% +/-. That doesnt add up to me.

    yes war costs money. Its not taxes as a whole that I have a problem with, its how they are implemented.

    Why should a the CEO of a million dollar company get taxed 45%. When 25K a year retail stock boy gets taxed 20%. How on earth is that even close to fair?

    This is why i support the fair tax plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    This is why i support the fair tax plan.
    +reps on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    This is why i support the fair tax plan.
    well w/ most taxes being paid by the top 10-20% income bracket fair tax wouldn't help us... most rich people i know just purchase shit under company names for write offs so a guy making say 1,000,000 won't be paying for jack shit but utilities for his personal home

    fair tax i think should be for the lower income brackets; the rich don't need any help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    well w/ most taxes being paid by the top 10-20% income bracket fair tax wouldn't help us... most rich people i know just purchase shit under company names for write offs so a guy making say 1,000,000 won't be paying for jack shit but utilities for his personal home

    fair tax i think should be for the lower income brackets; the rich don't need any help.

    what are you talking about? Say i make 1,000,000 this year. Im going to pay 450K in taxes. Not everything is a 1:1 write off. Wish it was.

    So the people that support people like you dont need any help? Great attitude Paul.

    Fair tax plan, the way i see it will help everyone. Drug dealers, illegals, "under the table employees" will all have to pay taxes. It has its kinks that need to be ironed out, but with work I think it could be possible.

    Now please. Explain to me why the "rich" dont need help. Considering the top 20% of the population support 80% of the tax base. Im pretty sure they deserve help.

    Of course, we coul always go with what the dems want, 70% tax on people making over 100,000 per year. That would be great. Socialism at its finest Paul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    what are you talking about? Say i make 1,000,000 this year. Im going to pay 450K in taxes. Not everything is a 1:1 write off. Wish it was.

    So the people that support people like you dont need any help? Great attitude Paul.

    Fair tax plan, the way i see it will help everyone. Drug dealers, illegals, "under the table employees" will all have to pay taxes. It has its kinks that need to be ironed out, but with work I think it could be possible.

    Now please. Explain to me why the "rich" dont need help. Considering the top 20% of the population support 80% of the tax base. Im pretty sure they deserve help.

    Of course, we coul always go with what the dems want, 70% tax on people making over 100,000 per year. That would be great. Socialism at its finest Paul.
    tax achivement, reward failure.
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    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    tax achivement, reward failure.
    Sorry, forgive my stupidity. Im not sure i follow you 100%.
    "The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    Sorry, forgive my stupidity. Im not sure i follow you 100%.
    taxing achievement= tax the "rich" . reward failure=welfare. 2 things the Dems use to buy votes. or you could lump them together and cal it what it is, Class Warfare.
    www.fairtax.org
    Quote Originally Posted by kelly
    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny
    what are you talking about? Say i make 1,000,000 this year. Im going to pay 450K in taxes. Not everything is a 1:1 write off. Wish it was.

    So the people that support people like you dont need any help? Great attitude Paul.

    Fair tax plan, the way i see it will help everyone. Drug dealers, illegals, "under the table employees" will all have to pay taxes. It has its kinks that need to be ironed out, but with work I think it could be possible.

    Now please. Explain to me why the "rich" dont need help. Considering the top 20% of the population support 80% of the tax base. Im pretty sure they deserve help.

    Of course, we coul always go with what the dems want, 70% tax on people making over 100,000 per year. That would be great. Socialism at its finest Paul.
    fine i'll break it down for you...

    we'll say you make 25k a year... and we have fair tax... so you are going to pay more in taxes for the things you buy... ok cool. you go buy a new car you pay these new increased taxes for our new Fair Tax system.

    now joe blow millionare in the 7 digit category goes to purchase his new ferrari under his company so his personal assets aren't touched the company pays the taxes. what exactly is he paying taxes on if he is writing this shit off? i work for an insurance company and i know for a fact we have 3 $100,000+ benz, 1 $80,000+ porshce, and a few more bmw/benz under are company for write offs for personal cars. Not a single one of the drivers are paying taxes on these cars.

    If the majority of tax money in our system comes from the top 10% i don't see how it will be possible to keep making that amount for our gov't if these people are allowed to write off major purchases through corporations.

    If you make more you should be taxed more, but there is a limit to this... the small amount they are paying in taxes they will never miss anyway; and your not/nor will likely be in that tax bracket so why does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    fine i'll break it down for you...

    we'll say you make 25k a year... and we have fair tax... so you are going to pay more in taxes for the things you buy... ok cool. you go buy a new car you pay these new increased taxes for our new Fair Tax system.

    now joe blow millionare in the 7 digit category goes to purchase his new ferrari under his company so his personal assets aren't touched the company pays the taxes. what exactly is he paying taxes on if he is writing this shit off? i work for an insurance company and i know for a fact we have 3 $100,000+ benz, 1 $80,000+ porshce, and a few more bmw/benz under are company for write offs for personal cars. Not a single one of the drivers are paying taxes on these cars.

    If the majority of tax money in our system comes from the top 10% i don't see how it will be possible to keep making that amount for our gov't if these people are allowed to write off major purchases through corporations.

    If you make more you should be taxed more, but there is a limit to this... the small amount they are paying in taxes they will never miss anyway; and your not/nor will likely be in that tax bracket so why does it matter?
    there are no "write-offs" under the Fair Tax. you buy something, you pay taxes on it. simple as that. whether it's a Co. or a person it dosen't matter.
    www.fairtax.org
    Quote Originally Posted by kelly
    True. But where's my sig?!! (lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by {X}Echo419
    there are no "write-offs" under the Fair Tax. you buy something, you pay taxes on it. simple as that. whether it's a Co. or a person it dosen't matter.
    wrong under Fair Tax:

    "If, however, they use their money to build job-creating factories, finance research and development to create new products, or fund charitable activities (all of which help improve the standard of living of others), then those activities are not taxed."

    loops holes like this will help the rich get richer while the lower 50% of the USA pays more for taxes under this plan

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