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    Lowering it would be silly IMO.

    I agree that if you serve your country you SHOULD be able to legally drink a beer, but it's a simple fact that you're not fully cooked at 21 let alone at 18.

    Most underage drinkers drink to excess, binge, because they are IMMATURE....it has nothing to do with legal or not legal. When I drank and was underage, getting blitz was the purpose otherwise why risk getting caught. We all thought is was "cool" to get shit faced and puke. Right of passage, like it or not. I don't know of a single person that looks back at anyone's underage drinking and thinks to themselves, "wow, I was cool then...". It's usually the opposite.

    Over 21 people get drunk and act stupid all the time, absolutely. But as your age increases and the maturity level rises, you begin to see that drinking to get drunk each and everytime is overrated. You cannot expect 18 yr olds to have the mindset and maturity level it takes to control alcohol consumption w/o setting some kind of boundary. Right now is the law that serves as a boundary. Look at how many of us got carried out of a bar the day we turned 21.......I know I did. Why? Cause that's what I thought was fun at the time. Just like 99% of 21 yr olds.

    What's the big deal anyway? How many people woke up hungover the day after their 21st birthday and asked, "that's it?". Just like a new GF, the initial fun is because it's new. After the fun wears off, she's either gonna be a keeper or not.

    Personally, I was just like some of you younger guys when I was young too.....Couldn't wait until I turned 21 to be able to "legally" drink. But trust me, after you get there it's not any different than getting in your car and driving. We all counted the days until 15-16 to drive, now it's just what we do. Nothing too special 99% of the time, same goes for drinking.

    I'll get off my soapbox now.

    Seriously, this will never really happen because the public feels too strongly that the majority of 18 yr olds just aren't capable of the responsability. Ironically enough, you can get on a plane from Atl and in 3 short hours be somewhere where it is perfectly legal for 18yr old to drink. The irony is that it's legal there, but it's not that big a deal for the 18yr olds. It's just another thing.

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    Lower it to 16. The earlier they "get it out of their system", the better......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    I agree that if you serve your country you SHOULD be able to legally drink a beer, but it's a simple fact that you're not fully cooked at 21 let alone at 18.
    thats my whole point, not to neccesarily lower it but make it the same as the draft.

    i mean if you can be forced to die for your country why cant you even have a beer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    thats my whole point, not to neccesarily lower it but make it the same as the draft.

    i mean if you can be forced to die for your country why cant you even have a beer?
    nobody is forced to do anything in the military, thats why so many hippies feel so sorry for the people in the war,because they feel we were forced to come here, we ALL volunteered our services to our country knowing the risks when we did it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpddualy
    nobody is forced to do anything in the military, thats why so many hippies feel so sorry for the people in the war,because they feel we were forced to come here, we ALL volunteered our services to our country knowing the risks when we did it.
    you obviously did not read what i wrote here let me bold it for you

    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    thats my whole point, not to neccesarily lower it but make it the same as the draft.

    i mean if you can be forced to die for your country why cant you even have a beer?
    last i checked the draft was where you were FORCED to fight in the military
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    you obviously did not read what i wrote here let me bold it for you


    last i checked the draft was where you were FORCED to fight in the military
    last I checked there was no drinking age when the draft was last enforced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpddualy
    last I checked there was no drinking age when the draft was last enforced.
    well you need to check again apparently

    my dad was almost drafted for vietnam and the age in california at that time was 21 he didnt get drafted because they stopped the draft 2 months before his birthdate was called on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    thats my whole point, not to neccesarily lower it but make it the same as the draft.

    i mean if you can be forced to die for your country why cant you even have a beer?

    I do see your point, but in the Armed Forces you always have someone higher up in the chain of command overseeing you too. You don't just go rouge and Rambo and start shooting just for kicks.

    If you turn all the 18 yr olds loose, who is going to be overseeing them? The Armed Forces serve as defacto parent to their soldiers and set rules for them and oversee them. There is no such thing in the general public, especially if the law backs them up.

    I do see what you're saying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Personally, I was just like some of you younger guys when I was young too.....Couldn't wait until I turned 21 to be able to "legally" drink. But trust me, after you get there it's not any different than getting in your car and driving. We all counted the days until 15-16 to drive, now it's just what we do. Nothing too special 99% of the time, same goes for drinking.

    I'll get off my soapbox now.

    Seriously, this will never really happen because the public feels too strongly that the majority of 18 yr olds just aren't capable of the responsability. Ironically enough, you can get on a plane from Atl and in 3 short hours be somewhere where it is perfectly legal for 18yr old to drink. The irony is that it's legal there, but it's not that big a deal for the 18yr olds. It's just another thing.
    im 21, but my whole point is not "LOWER THE AGE....PARTY!!!!!!!!"
    its on the fact of being forced to die for your country but they wont let you have any alcohol in the process
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    im 21, but my whole point is not "LOWER THE AGE....PARTY!!!!!!!!"
    its on the fact of being forced to die for your country but they wont let you have any alcohol in the process
    Remember, noone has been drafted into the Armed Forces since Vietnam over 30 yrs ago. So in essence, noone is "forced" to die for their country.....they volunteer.

    I think that if you are in the Armed Forces.....maybe they should just let you drink on the base or while stationed somewhere (although most places where we have military bases I think have a legal drinking age of 18 anyway ) as a perk for serving your country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Remember, noone has been drafted into the Armed Forces since Vietnam over 30 yrs ago. So in essence, noone is "forced" to die for their country.....they volunteer.
    theres still that chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulud
    theres still that chance
    no there isnt, too many people are volunteering to serve for the government to need to force people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdydrpddualy
    no there isnt, too many people are volunteering to serve for the government to need to force people.
    ok then thats why after 9/11 there were people in teh govt trying to reinstate the draft?

    i mean what if n. korea keeps on with their pissing contest? and we get into a war? then what? we still have forces in iraq and all over the world we will need teh draft
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