The truth of 9/11

[HiPSI]

Do u know what happens to a plane that hits a building at over 500+ mph? Regular Civil airliners can break up at those speeds they were not designed to fly at that high of a speed. There is a test that aircraft must pass in order to be allowed to fly, they test the strength of the wings and how much of an angle they can be bent upward before they snap off. US Air Force military aircraft do not have this test because they are built so strong that there is no fear of their wings snapping off. Regular Civilian aircraft are very week in comparision, and combined with the temeratures of the fire that raged with the jet fuel the speed of the aircraft and the impact that was made in the side of the the pentagon and Shanksville, PA it is obvious that it was a jet airliner and not a cruise missle. There that is your explanation to your theory of aircraft parts. Look at what happened to the towers when those planes hit, could you see any wreckage in the buildings after the planes hit?

O ya its gonna take another 9/11 before you guys realize that its not the government that is blowing stuff up around the country. Would you guys still be saying the government did this even if Gore was the president and not Bush on 9/11? Look at the facts dont be pissed off because a Democrat isnt president. You guys call Bush a Dumbass and w/e well if hes such a dumbass how could he pull off a conspiacy like the one you guys keep saying he did.
If i asked you why were in iraq im willing to bet your answer would be oil. Well if we were there for oil do you really think we would be paying 3$+ a gallon? Get past the fucking politics and look at the facts stop hating bush for just one second and look at things from a moderate view point.

And no i dont believe everything i see on TV because if i did i would be just like you guys bashing the war in Iraq and bashing Bush. Thats all the news networks do besides Fox News. You guys must be the ones that believe everything you see on TV and the Internet because the moment this video showed up you guys were freaking out saying o this is the truth and what not.

so it's your explanation that the wings/engines/tail of BOTH planes all were entirely obliterated into nothingness upon crashing? so instead of being mildly consistent with every other commercial airliner crash in history, these two planes defied the laws of physics and their wings flew off on their own?

here's another question that wasn't addressed in the video, since you have such a great understanding of aeronautical engineering. the fuel tanks in the 757 are in the wings, roughly 90 feet apart from one another. why was basically all of the fire at the pentagon focused at the center impact hole?

surely the fuel tanks would have burned much larger and longer than the fuselage? if the tail wing was vaporized, why were the windows just above the impact hole still intact? surely it would have hit something before shredding to bits. note they are high strength windows, but i don't think they'd withstand the impact of a 757's tail rudder coming at them at pretty much any speed.


how did the wing magically clear the generator just to the right of the impact hole but damage the bottom most floor only? (even though that damage isn't consistant with being struck by a wing at 350mph)



i don't care who the president is, i don't get into all of that political crap myself. the reason i believe some of the points in the video is because scientific and COMMON SENSE proof was given with each claim made. you believe what you want to, i won't fault you for it. but if you can't see the inconsistencies being presented by the "official" story then i'm truly sorry. to me the things i'm seeing are too much just a story from the govt side and not enough proof to back anything up under the guise of being classified info. again, if the plane hit the building, why did the security videos get confiscated from the gas station and hotel and never released. they released the 5 or so frames from the pentagon's own sercurity camera that doesn't show anything but a flash and a fireball, where is the video that shows a commercial airplane in at least minor detail striking the building?

[Hulud]

so it's your explanation that the wings/engines/tail of BOTH planes all were entirely obliterated into nothingness upon crashing? so instead of being mildly consistent with every other commercial airliner crash in history, these two planes defied the laws of physics and their wings flew off on their own?

here's another question that wasn't addressed in the video, since you have such a great understanding of aeronautical engineering. the fuel tanks in the 757 are in the wings, roughly 90 feet apart from one another. why was basically all of the fire at the pentagon focused at the center impact hole?

surely the fuel tanks would have burned much larger and longer than the fuselage? if the tail wing was vaporized, why were the windows just above the impact hole still intact? surely it would have hit something before shredding to bits. note they are high strength windows, but i don't think they'd withstand the impact of a 757's tail rudder coming at them at pretty much any speed.


how did the wing magically clear the generator just to the right of the impact hole but damage the bottom most floor only? (even though that damage isn't consistant with being struck by a wing at 350mph)



i don't care who the president is, i don't get into all of that political crap myself. the reason i believe some of the points in the video is because scientific and COMMON SENSE proof was given with each claim made. you believe what you want to, i won't fault you for it. but if you can't see the inconsistencies being presented by the "official" story then i'm truly sorry. to me the things i'm seeing are too much just a story from the govt side and not enough proof to back anything up under the guise of being classified info. again, if the plane hit the building, why did the security videos get confiscated from the gas station and hotel and never released. they released the 5 or so frames from the pentagon's own sercurity camera that doesn't show anything but a flash and a fireball, where is the video that shows a commercial airplane in at least minor detail striking the building?

[ShooterMcGavin]

so it's your explanation that the wings/engines/tail of BOTH planes all were entirely obliterated into nothingness upon crashing? so instead of being mildly consistent with every other commercial airliner crash in history, these two planes defied the laws of physics and their wings flew off on their own?

here's another question that wasn't addressed in the video, since you have such a great understanding of aeronautical engineering. the fuel tanks in the 757 are in the wings, roughly 90 feet apart from one another. why was basically all of the fire at the pentagon focused at the center impact hole?

surely the fuel tanks would have burned much larger and longer than the fuselage? if the tail wing was vaporized, why were the windows just above the impact hole still intact? surely it would have hit something before shredding to bits. note they are high strength windows, but i don't think they'd withstand the impact of a 757's tail rudder coming at them at pretty much any speed.


how did the wing magically clear the generator just to the right of the impact hole but damage the bottom most floor only? (even though that damage isn't consistant with being struck by a wing at 350mph)



i don't care who the president is, i don't get into all of that political crap myself. the reason i believe some of the points in the video is because scientific and COMMON SENSE proof was given with each claim made. you believe what you want to, i won't fault you for it. but if you can't see the inconsistencies being presented by the "official" story then i'm truly sorry. to me the things i'm seeing are too much just a story from the govt side and not enough proof to back anything up under the guise of being classified info. again, if the plane hit the building, why did the security videos get confiscated from the gas station and hotel and never released. they released the 5 or so frames from the pentagon's own sercurity camera that doesn't show anything but a flash and a fireball, where is the video that shows a commercial airplane in at least minor detail striking the building?

watch the damn video and actually think through the FACTS presented without being a biased conservative OR liberal.

[Xan]

so it's your explanation that the wings/engines/tail of BOTH planes all were entirely obliterated into nothingness upon crashing? so instead of being mildly consistent with every other commercial airliner crash in history, these two planes defied the laws of physics and their wings flew off on their own?

here's another question that wasn't addressed in the video, since you have such a great understanding of aeronautical engineering. the fuel tanks in the 757 are in the wings, roughly 90 feet apart from one another. why was basically all of the fire at the pentagon focused at the center impact hole?

surely the fuel tanks would have burned much larger and longer than the fuselage? if the tail wing was vaporized, why were the windows just above the impact hole still intact? surely it would have hit something before shredding to bits. note they are high strength windows, but i don't think they'd withstand the impact of a 757's tail rudder coming at them at pretty much any speed.


how did the wing magically clear the generator just to the right of the impact hole but damage the bottom most floor only? (even though that damage isn't consistant with being struck by a wing at 350mph)



i don't care who the president is, i don't get into all of that political crap myself. the reason i believe some of the points in the video is because scientific and COMMON SENSE proof was given with each claim made. you believe what you want to, i won't fault you for it. but if you can't see the inconsistencies being presented by the "official" story then i'm truly sorry. to me the things i'm seeing are too much just a story from the govt side and not enough proof to back anything up under the guise of being classified info. again, if the plane hit the building, why did the security videos get confiscated from the gas station and hotel and never released. they released the 5 or so frames from the pentagon's own sercurity camera that doesn't show anything but a flash and a fireball, where is the video that shows a commercial airplane in at least minor detail striking the building?

Check out the DoD releases crash tape thread. There's a link in there that has some really good points on the pentagon incident and sources to back them up. I'll throw out the important stuff(at least it was to me). The windows were 3 inches thick(I think. That link says the exact) and shatter proof. Some of them were found on the ground intact. As far as the size of the hole(They were nocked out of their frames). The diameter of the fusilage(sp)(with landing gear up) matched the size of the hole in the pentagon. The top half of the planes fusilage was hollow(Passengers) so it sheared off on impact. Pieces of it were raining down on the lawn for minutes after the crash. The right engine did clip the generator. It turned it 45 degrees TOWARDS the Pentagon. A missle or explosion would have blown it the opposite direction. Back to the lack of damage on the exterior walls. They had been reinforced with kevlar to keep outer walls from shattering(The area was under construction). The wings were loaded with fuel. On impact, the wings were probably incinerated from the explosion. The burnt areas all around the point of impact suggest this. You kind of have to look at the fusilage in bullet theory. When you fire a gun at a piece of plywood, it leaves a nice symetrical hole(most of the time). Think of the fusilage as a huge bullet traveling at 400+MPH. They found one of the engines(I think it was the ground piloting) and most of the debris matched the materials used in boeing's construction. There are still tons of questions that need clarification. However, all evidence(At least the evidence I have seen) points towards a boeing 757.

Edit: This is a link to the site I mentioned earlier. http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/..._evidence.html