Loitering/Prowling ticket in Fulton County.

[R3RUN]

I thought that you had to be asked to leave by the property owner or manager before it was considered loitering.

[quickdodge®]

I thought that you had to be asked to leave by the property owner or manager before it was considered loitering.

Nope. If you are on the property of a business and you are not conducting business with that company, it is considered loitering. Later, QD.

[BABY J]

Nope. If you are on the property of a business and you are not conducting business with that company, it is considered loitering. Later, QD.

Wrong. None of this is exacly black and white either, but there is a thing of "more" wrong and "less" wrong. I usually do not get into this internet gayness of bickering back and forth... but I owned a speed shop in Colorado Springs. A lot of the locals would hang out in the lot, they were not conducting business but they were not considered loitering. In most states the loitering tickets you receive would be thrown out simply b/c it's private property. The law comes in when/if the business has contracted/informed the city to police their property. In essence, it's up to the property owners to press the issue. As a business owner, Colorado told me that as long as I posted NO LOITERING signs on/near my business, that gave local enforcement power to enforce loitering laws. If I did not do that, then their "move on" threats are basically just suggestions as far as the courts are concerned, although no tuner in his right mind would not take that suggestion to heart if presented w/ such an easy way out as "move along". And as far as madEGhatch05 is concerned, at the 1st race you SHOULD have left. NE1 who is still using Ind. parks and large groups to prove points are either not the smartest, or havn't been in the game long enough (LOL). If I wanna do it, I bring 1 witness w/ a cam, and I bring the person I am running. Doesn't take a "meet" to get your hp, traction, acceleration/top speed point across. At the end of the day, I would contact the park (SERIOUSLY) before the court date and tell them what happened. Ask them if they have a no loitering policy, and if they have signs posted. No matter what their answer is, if you document the persons name and what they said to you... the judge will note that you were being proactive and maybe lighten up. For example, if they say "Yes we have a no loitering policy, but we do not have signs posted", you can say that to the judge that you were not aware b/c there were no signs posted. You are ALSO in the clear b/c you were NOT given a drag-racing/wreckless-driving/wreckless-endangerment/spectator citation... which says that you were not actually involved in anything except for what the ticket says... "loitering", which is relative, not definite. If I pull over at an industrial park to talk on the cell phone after hours doesn't mean I am loitering... I am simply a safe driver. Simply stated, "loitering" is easy(easier) to beat b/c it's relative.

[{X}Echo419]

^correct!

[quickdodge®]

Wrong.

Not exactly.

None of this is exacly black and white either,

Correct.

. I usually do not get into this internet gayness of bickering back and forth...

Who's "bickering?" If you are in an Industrial Park's lot, and it's 2-3am, you (more than likely) have no business there. That constitutes loitering. Maybe things are different in CS, CO. But this isn't CO. Later, QD.