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    Are you going to flip it?

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    I'm holding for a minute, going to build up some free shares before I start selling.
    I managed to pick up evfl before it jumped 100 percent. Bad thing is I only invested 40 dollars

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    I'm holding for a minute, going to build up some free shares before I start selling.
    I managed to pick up evfl before it jumped 100 percent. Bad thing is I only invested 40 dollars

    $40? I understand that if it goes bad its just a $40 loss, but the stock would have to go up almost 25% just for you to break-even with commissions. Is that working for you?

    I haven't been investing less than $400 in each position so that commission doesn't bite into it as bad. What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post
    $40? I understand that if it goes bad its just a $40 loss, but the stock would have to go up almost 25% just for you to break-even with commissions. Is that working for you?

    I haven't been investing less than $400 in each position so that commission doesn't bite into it as bad. What do you guys think?
    My commission is 5.95 with USAA so with 100 percent I net about 23 dollars after fees. I figure I just keep flipping and see where it ends up over time. The hard part is finding a buyer @ .0002. With evfl though the company has potential but it is purely a spec play for me.

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    Morning did not go very well for me, screwed up pretty bad with a very basic concept lol, what was supposed to be a one-day flip is now long term. Won't make the same mistake twice. I'm now down about 11% overall holding on to CTIC, BIEL, and CRXX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post
    Morning did not go very well for me, screwed up pretty bad with a very basic concept lol, what was supposed to be a one-day flip is now long term. Won't make the same mistake twice. I'm now down about 11% overall holding on to CTIC, BIEL, and CRXX.
    CTIC got some bad news so it might bleed down to 1 dollar before another upswing. CRXX is getting a lot of good attention from other investors I know and BIEL you will be rewarded if you are patient. The run up on anticipation alone should pay nicely.

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    Bummer, sold out of CHTP at 2.61, and it went upto $3.15 while I was at lunch. Shouldn't complain though, made an almost $1700 gain in half an hour. If only I could do that everyday lol.

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    What do you guys think about BBI? I like the way its setting up on the chart, but I don't have much research in it yet. Thinking about buying in tomorrow pending it going down a little more.

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    If I could move in an out of stocks on a dime like that CHTP would have been a good play but I have until Oct. 23rd before I can do that.

    BBI I dont know a whole lot about, i'd have to research where the business is headed.

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    Why do you have to wait?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    Why do you have to wait?
    Playing ADLS I accidentally chose Margin funding instead of cash, somehow in the process I managed to get a "free ride" which is a big no no. Put my account on probation for 3 months which forces me to wait 3 days after a trade. After october I wont have to wait 3 days, i can sell.. funds will be available immediately and I can move in and out of investments.

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    Oh ok, I'm still kind scared to try margin cause I don't know how it works fully. Like, lets say I have $5k cash in my account, and nothing else. And, I want to buy $10k worth of stock, could I do that? I do have a margin account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    Oh ok, I'm still kind scared to try margin cause I don't know how it works fully. Like, lets say I have $5k cash in my account, and nothing else. And, I want to buy $10k worth of stock, could I do that? I do have a margin account.
    I dont have a 100% grasp on margin either which led to my error. USAA defaults to Margin instead of cash which led to my mistake.

    SIXOQ, for the 2nd time I am telling you guys.. throw an amount you're willing to lose but the upside for the short term is worth the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    Oh ok, I'm still kind scared to try margin cause I don't know how it works fully. Like, lets say I have $5k cash in my account, and nothing else. And, I want to buy $10k worth of stock, could I do that? I do have a margin account.
    You need to qualify as a pattern day trader, which means you must have $25k in equity/cash minimum in an account. So in your example no you couldn't. But if you have $50k cash in your account, yes you could buy $10k worth of stock using only $5k cash.

    FYI ironchef if you have less than $25k in your account you can only buy and sell a position during the same day 3 times per week max.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_day_trader


    This doesn't apply to FOREX btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post
    You need to qualify as a pattern day trader, which means you must have $25k in equity/cash minimum in an account. So in your example no you couldn't. But if you have $50k cash in your account, yes you could buy $10k worth of stock using only $5k cash.

    FYI ironchef if you have less than $25k in your account you can only buy and sell a position during the same day 3 times per week max.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern_day_trader


    This doesn't apply to FOREX btw.
    Yea I know about the round tripping. I usually don't do it, CHTP today was out of the ordinary. I see myself more of a swing trader.

    Looks like I have to work my way up to $25k and then $50k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    Yea I know about the round tripping. I usually don't do it, CHTP today was out of the ordinary. I see myself more of a swing trader.

    Looks like I have to work my way up to $25k and then $50k.
    Yea me too, monday was the first time i did it.

    Nothing happens at $50k, that was just my example. All you need is more than $25k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post
    Yea me too, monday was the first time i did it.

    Nothing happens at $50k, that was just my example. All you need is more than $25k.
    Something does happen, you have $50k .

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    RIMM got hammered AH today after their earnings report. Just picked some up @ 73.84. I figure it will bounce back 5% easy by probably tomorrow, maybe even 10% next week.

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    The weird thing is like right now on my E-Trade account it says my Margin buying power is double my cash buying power. Which makes me think I could use margin now, but I'm still hesitant.

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    Mr. Chef,

    I know how much you like the legit plays and not so much the pennies. The people I've been investing with are saying REALLY good things about CIT-A this week.. if you can get in under $4.00 you can at least play the run up to $7 since CIT will be releasing their plan to restructure (or bankruptcy) this thursday. It is very doubtful if CIT declares bankruptcy and if the news is good $12+ is expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony View Post
    Mr. Chef,

    I know how much you like the legit plays and not so much the pennies. The people I've been investing with are saying REALLY good things about CIT-A this week.. if you can get in under $4.00 you can at least play the run up to $7 since CIT will be releasing their plan to restructure (or bankruptcy) this thursday. It is very doubtful if CIT declares bankruptcy and if the news is good $12+ is expected.
    I couldn't find CIT-A. Are you talking about CIT as in the CIT Group, which is currently at $1.60?

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    CIT-A are the preferred shares of CIT, it should be @ $3.95 a share right now. Different brokerages have it listed under different quotes, it could be CITPRA

    These shares are basically notes, they pay a dividend and should CIT structure successfully and close out the shares they are worth about $24.00. (nice payoff if the company make a good come back) I'm just playing this short term.

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    Hmm, it seems ok, but I'm not terribly thrilled about the volume. I'd hate to be stuck should volume die out. Wouldn't playing the regular common stock give fairly good returns should CIT do something good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    Hmm, it seems ok, but I'm not terribly thrilled about the volume. I'd hate to be stuck should volume die out. Wouldn't playing the regular common stock give fairly good returns should CIT do something good?
    Volume is low because its thinly traded, but buys of 1000 shares or so are being fullfilled. The common shares could see some very nice gains should good news come thursday but the Preferred shares are even more valuable since they pay dividends and how they are structured.

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    I'll post up my current portfolio just in hopes that my patience will pay off this time.

    SIXOQ - 1500 shares

    BZCN - 362000 shares

    BIEL - 25800 shares

    ASFX - 50000 shares

    CPRK I sold and waiting for below .0070 before I buy back in, till then I'm buying CITPRA w/ 500 shares

    EVFL - 350000 shares (Purely speculative play)

    The ones I expect a nice return from, BIEL.. ASFX SIXOQ and CITPRA, the others are spec plays for me.

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    I'm currently in CVM w/ 5900 shares, got them at $1.67.

    Looking for a decent run into the $2's this week.

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    I'm obviously bored today, but if we all knew BIEL was going to hit somewhere around .50-.70 why not invest everything you have in it?

    edit: to answer my own Q, I invest in the other stuff in hopes that it matures nicely before BIEL.. then I can channel profits into BIEL and quit the day job lol. I'd love nothing more than to be a full time investor.

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    If we all knew BIEL was guaranteed to go to .50-.70, I'm sure we would take out as many loans/mortgages as possible. But, nothing is guaranteed, even less so when its a penny stock.

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    This is definitely not the place to have all your eggs in one basket.

    Keep an eye on HDVY btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post

    Keep an eye on HDVY btw

    This bastard is up 80% since I posted this... Bought some yesterday at .16, keeps going up without any news.

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    Guaranteed no, likely.. yes. BIEL is similar to HEB and CTIC before they took off. I was just getting my feet wet when they were really low and I didnt pay much attention.. now both have managed to touch $2.00. With the future of BIEL and should they get indexed like the other two I expect some pretty big gains.

    I just remember CTIC being around .10 early in this year and blowing it off like whatever. HEB was @ .80 by the time I discovered it but was much lower before. The three companies are carbon copies as far as the potential and what they have lined up.. BIEL is actually more similar to NEPH than the other two.

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    When is the BIEL run expected to start?

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    Keep SUNV on radar.

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    SUNV looks good, I like the chart and the fundamentals. That will be my backup if I cant get into CIT-A.

    BIEL is supposed to run around the end of this year. Caveat Emptor might be removed before then and cause a slight jump, definitely a good entry point at these prices.

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    Rather than getting into new positions I think Ill just hold off so that I have money in case I need to average down my other positions. I bought CTIC a little high but my big fuck up was CRXX Yet averaging down might put me deeper in the hole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plv View Post
    Rather than getting into new positions I think Ill just hold off so that I have money in case I need to average down my other positions. I bought CTIC a little high but my big fuck up was CRXX Yet averaging down might put me deeper in the hole.
    I don't see CRXX dropping much more before having a nice reversal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef View Post
    I don't see CRXX dropping much more before having a nice reversal.
    Well I hope so. I bought it at last week's peak lol. I just found out this:

    http://www.gurufocus.com/news.php?id=70449

    so I'm more worried about CTIC now.

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    btw, the biel run will start in 3-5 weeks when actipatch's 510k's have been approved as dr. scholls is waiting to pick up the heel/foot application.

    Upon approval of actipatch, the pps should see .70 and settle in the .40-.50 range, and then head back upwards with the airing of the infomercials and approval of allay

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    SUNV up 37.5% . Very small volume for a cheap stock like that though, so it would be tough to get in an out with decent amount of shares.

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    Ugh, really want to jump into XEROX in the anticipation of a nice reversal, but I got burned by that logic last week in RIMM, so hmm...

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