Republicans against Bush

[djmaddmartin]

Your lack of tact, intelligent sentence structure and comments elude to the poor level of understanding and awareness you possess about whats going on in this country. Everyday that passes you support those who are taking away our rights and freedoms. The day will come when you relize you are being oppressed by those who you supported. By then it may be too late.

Reason for edit: :confused: bamboozled political novice :confused:

MUHAHAHAHAHA thats what happeneds when you are typing real fast and no going back and checking. Sucks to Rush!

Anyways someone who can openly call themselfs liberal is nothing more than ignorant. But i will grant that not all Democrats and Liberals are Left Wing Cocksuckers but most are. I am just still waiting for some dumbass liberal to blame the wind on blowing aginst bush or some other republican.

Reason For Edit:

[MachNU]

Your lack of tact, intelligent sentence structure and comments elude to the poor level of understanding and awareness you possess about whats going on in this country. Everyday that passes you support those who are taking away our rights and freedoms. The day will come when you relize you are being oppressed by those who you supported. By then it may be too late.

Reason for edit: :confused: bamboozled political novice :confused:

OH MY GOD Give me one or even more good reasons of the rights and freedoms that the Republicans and Bush are taking away from me. I havent seen any yet. Also i would take it that you voted for Kerry and it you do say you did then you have NO REASON to talk becuase that was the most ignorant man to ever walk to the face of this earth. So give me some good reasons of the rights and freedoms that are getting taking away from me.

[djmaddmartin]

Can you even put a paragraph together? So lets see whats on the chopping block. Loss of privacy: ( Patriot Act ) Women's right to control her own body: ( Soon to be gone Roe vs. Wade) The right for us not to have any one religion dictate political policy and rational thought: ( Seperation of Church and State disappearing) ..... I'll list more if you want me too but you can benifit from a little reading. Rubbie!

OH MY GOD Give me one or even more good reasons of the rights and freedoms that the Republicans and Bush are taking away from me. I havent seen any yet. Also i would take it that you voted for Kerry and it you do say you did then you have NO REASON to talk becuase that was the most ignorant man to ever walk to the face of this earth. So give me some good reasons of the rights and freedoms that are getting taking away from me.

[MachNU]

Can you even put a paragraph together? So lets see whats on the chopping block. Loss of privacy: ( Patriot Act ) Women's right to control her own body: ( Soon to be gone Roe vs. Wade) The right for us not to have any one religion dictate political policy and rational thought: ( Seperation of Church and State disappearing) ..... I'll list more if you want me too but you can benifit from a little reading. Rubbie!

HAHAHAHAAHA Can you even follow directions?

I asked you to give me examples all you did was give me some statments!

You want to sit there and call me ignorant when when i asked you to prove yourself, you did the most Demorcratic Liberal move and didnt answer the question but with a statment. A counteroffer you will. Now with the small bit of information you have me about your first defence which wa womens rights with the case of Roe vs. Wade.

So to set this off since you really dont know what a debate is i will help you. Now jsut try and follow as i "Debate" your ignorant answers with proof ( since i wont dance around the answer like you have )!

The Patriot Act since you brought it up and i dont think you have a clue what it is i will help you. ( Oh heres my back-up for it http://www.cdt.org/security/011031summary.shtml for those who want to read it themselves. ) The Patriot Act is something that does nothing more than PROTECT your rights. People complain and bitch about how there information that is sent all around the internet every waking second of the day is unprotected from people who like to steal that information. Well the Patriot Act is being made to help Internet providers strengthen there firewalls and keep hackers out so that everything you do on the internet is secure. It also is helping the FBI CIA NSA or any other top lvl organization track down cyber criminals and terroriost or jstu any other joker screwing around with there computer, to be able to trap trace them and find there signal faster to get them behind bars. So to me that is protecting my right to privacy not trying to let everyone see it.

Now you said Roe vs. Wade ( for the people who want every bit of information http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Roe/ )

This case is nothing more than setting in motion up to today all the cases against aborations or whether it is right or wrong. That had nothing to do with womens rights, but it had to do with ethical rights. Which i cant argue against you becuase Ethical Rights is based on the person ethical decisions. But back then this lady wanted a aboration but was not given one becuase back then there had to be a direct medical reason that was at rick to the mother. But becuase the constitution was to vague the law was void becuase it didnt say yes or no to direct medical and bodily harm. So that has nothign to do with womens rights, since i the fact it is 32 years old and today things have changed.

Now onto your last few sentences where i ahve no clue what you mean since it has no meaning, but i do get what you say by Division of Church and State and that is an arguement that has been going on since Roman / Catholic times. Today it is a good thing that church adn state stay devided, but with this great nation being the land of the free, people are free to have all the religions in the world in this nation. Now since there are so many religions and so many coinsiding with each other, or course there is going to be some argument. Now i may be wrong on clarifying then tell me what you meant.

Now if you would I would love to hear your rebuttle.

Also i dont care about grammer errors or what not you get the jist and then move on.

[djmaddmartin]

Well we know you can post up links:

But all your links still don't debunk what I have said. Why don't you watch the Daily Show and lighten up. Bill O'Riley is on the show right now and its funny as shit. Its funny when he can't get in the last word.

I can post up links too but lets not waste time when we both know your not interested.

True the patriot act does good things but it leaves the door open for abuses dumb ass.

And lets not get going with the right wing church in this country ( not other countries!). They are the dog you have let out sacrificing our liberties to achieve conservative objectives. And when it can't get what it wants from the Republicans it will bite the hand that let it out.

And its my prediction that women will loose the right to choose within the next 10yrs. Which will lead to loss for many other rights. Don't believe me, just wait and see.

And we all know that Chritianity is the dominant religion in the US. But thats because the Puritans left! LOL So maybee you have a thing with this "if you don't like it leave".

You may be on to something, since Liberals and Democrats that are registered voters have a higher level of education and income than Convervatives and Republican registered voters. Don't believe me look it up. So if we all left it would be interesting. We could turn the US into the worlds largest armed McDonalds!

[malfeas99]

You may be on to something, since Liberals and Democrats that are registered voters have a higher level of education and income than Convervatives and Republican registered voters. Don't believe me look it up. So if we all left it would be interesting. We could turn the US into the worlds largest armed McDonalds!

Really?

Post up your proof. And I hope it includes the 'list of IQ per state' with all the high IQ's being blue states, so we can all laugh at you when I post the snopes article debunking that, as well as any other 'evidence' you have.

Income I can possibly believe, given that most democratic voters live in places with higher costs of living, and therefore tend to have more money (not that they're really 'wealthier', when you adjust for PPP), but then again, you have the lower 40% or more income tax bracket overwhelmingly voting Democrat (gee, wonder why that is). Also, it's known that the average personal contribution to the democratic party is much higher than the average contribution to the republican party. What that tells me is that there's a lot of limousine liberals and guilty celebrities footing the bill, though that's merely supposition.

But education? Please. Outside the halls of acedemia, you'd be hard pressed to make that one stick. But it'll be fun to see you try, because you need to believe this in order to feel like an intellectually and morally superior human being, when so far all I've seen spewing out of your mouth is just another brand of collectivist fascism. No thanks.

P.S.: You're out of your freaking mind if you actually believe abortion will ever become illegal again. Even if Roe vs Wade is overturned, that's not even CLOSE to the same as it being abolished.

P.P.S.: It took me 5 minutes of looking to find this snipped from a report by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press:

Generally, slightly more Americans consider themselves a Democrat than Republican. Still, about a third of Americans identified themselves as a Democratic supporter with a slightly smaller percentage as Republican. The rest, again about a third, supported a minor party, didn't know their partisan affiliation or call themselves independent.

As far as income levels go, the least well-off are overwhelmingly Democratic: Those earning less than $20,000 a year call themselves Democratic 43 percent to 18 percent and those earning $20,000 to $30,000 Democratic 37 percent to 24 percent. Those making between $30,000 and $50,000 are Democrats, 34 percent to 30 percent, while those making between $50,000 and $75,000 are more Republican, 35 percent to 29 percent. People who make $75,000 or more are strongly GOP, 39 percent to 28 percent.

Because education levels track income levels, there aren't many surprises on how educational attainment affects partisanship. Just as with income, as educational levels go up, more people are inclined to be Republican. Americans with less than a high-school education are overwhelmingly Democratic, 41 percent to 20 percent, while people who have just a high-school degree are Democrats, 34 percent to 28 percent. People with some college training tend to be Republicans, 32 percent to 31 percent while those with at least bachelor's degrees are Republican, 33 percent to 32 percent. I've seen other surveys on partisanship that show people with advanced degrees to be more Democratic than Republican, making those just bachelor's degrees more Republican if they're broken out of all those with some sort of a college degree.

Oops, you lose, again. Life's so much easier without me here to expose your stupid self-fellating lies, isn't it? Too bad, suck it up.

[djmaddmartin]

http://dabacon.org/pontiff/?p=539

Or if your too lazy to go to the link here is a screen shot:

[MachNU]

Generally, slightly more Americans consider themselves a Democrat than Republican. Still, about a third of Americans identified themselves as a Democratic supporter with a slightly smaller percentage as Republican. The rest, again about a third, supported a minor party, didn't know their partisan affiliation or call themselves independent.

As far as income levels go, the least well-off are overwhelmingly Democratic: Those earning less than $20,000 a year call themselves Democratic 43 percent to 18 percent and those earning $20,000 to $30,000 Democratic 37 percent to 24 percent. Those making between $30,000 and $50,000 are Democrats, 34 percent to 30 percent, while those making between $50,000 and $75,000 are more Republican, 35 percent to 29 percent. People who make $75,000 or more are strongly GOP, 39 percent to 28 percent.

Because education levels track income levels, there aren't many surprises on how educational attainment affects partisanship. Just as with income, as educational levels go up, more people are inclined to be Republican. Americans with less than a high-school education are overwhelmingly Democratic, 41 percent to 20 percent, while people who have just a high-school degree are Democrats, 34 percent to 28 percent. People with some college training tend to be Republicans, 32 percent to 31 percent while those with at least bachelor's degrees are Republican, 33 percent to 32 percent. I've seen other surveys on partisanship that show people with advanced degrees to be more Democratic than Republican, making those just bachelor's degrees more Republican if they're broken out of all those with some sort of a college degree.

LOL i just had to put this in to coinside with what this person said but.....

But when he said that most lower lower income people vote democrat...i can tell you why that is. This is not meant to afend anyone but.... if you notice most lower income people are black and hispanic....and also whites are also in there but the only reason they vote democrat is for really one reason. if you ever wathc presidental elections right before they happen you will notice that the democrats play one key card. They always sit there and speak right to the lower income people about how the rebuplicans are trying to take away there health care and welfare from them and put them out on the streets. But that in some way is true becuase most lower income people use welfare as a way for free money and not work as hard.

I mean this not to afend anyone but it is true. i will grant that there are alot of people out there who NEED welfare but there are some outt here who use it for free money and in no way try to better themselves to make more money.

just my

[slowwrx]

Really?

Post up your proof. And I hope it includes the 'list of IQ per state' with all the high IQ's being blue states, so we can all laugh at you when I post the snopes article debunking that, as well as any other 'evidence' you have.

Income I can possibly believe, given that most democratic voters live in places with higher costs of living, and therefore tend to have more money (not that they're really 'wealthier', when you adjust for PPP), but then again, you have the lower 40% or more income tax bracket overwhelmingly voting Democrat (gee, wonder why that is). Also, it's known that the average personal contribution to the democratic party is much higher than the average contribution to the republican party. What that tells me is that there's a lot of limousine liberals and guilty celebrities footing the bill, though that's merely supposition.

But education? Please. Outside the halls of acedemia, you'd be hard pressed to make that one stick. But it'll be fun to see you try, because you need to believe this in order to feel like an intellectually and morally superior human being, when so far all I've seen spewing out of your mouth is just another brand of collectivist fascism. No thanks.

P.S.: You're out of your freaking mind if you actually believe abortion will ever become illegal again. Even if Roe vs Wade is overturned, that's not even CLOSE to the same as it being abolished.

P.P.S.: It took me 5 minutes of looking to find this snipped from a report by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press:

Generally, slightly more Americans consider themselves a Democrat than Republican. Still, about a third of Americans identified themselves as a Democratic supporter with a slightly smaller percentage as Republican. The rest, again about a third, supported a minor party, didn't know their partisan affiliation or call themselves independent.

As far as income levels go, the least well-off are overwhelmingly Democratic: Those earning less than $20,000 a year call themselves Democratic 43 percent to 18 percent and those earning $20,000 to $30,000 Democratic 37 percent to 24 percent. Those making between $30,000 and $50,000 are Democrats, 34 percent to 30 percent, while those making between $50,000 and $75,000 are more Republican, 35 percent to 29 percent. People who make $75,000 or more are strongly GOP, 39 percent to 28 percent.

Because education levels track income levels, there aren't many surprises on how educational attainment affects partisanship. Just as with income, as educational levels go up, more people are inclined to be Republican. Americans with less than a high-school education are overwhelmingly Democratic, 41 percent to 20 percent, while people who have just a high-school degree are Democrats, 34 percent to 28 percent. People with some college training tend to be Republicans, 32 percent to 31 percent while those with at least bachelor's degrees are Republican, 33 percent to 32 percent. I've seen other surveys on partisanship that show people with advanced degrees to be more Democratic than Republican, making those just bachelor's degrees more Republican if they're broken out of all those with some sort of a college degree.

Oops, you lose, again. Life's so much easier without me here to expose your stupid self-fellating lies, isn't it? Too bad, suck it up.

That was truly awesome. Truly awesome.

I really dont feel like jumping into this little dog fight right now.

Matt

[Elrichthain]

You want to sit there and call me ignorant when when i asked you to prove yourself, you did the most Demorcratic Liberal move and didnt answer the question but with a statment. A counteroffer you will. Now with the small bit of information you have me about your first defence which wa womens rights with the case of Roe vs. Wade.

So to set this off since you really dont know what a debate is i will help you. Now jsut try and follow as i "Debate" your ignorant answers with proof ( since i wont dance around the answer like you have )!

The Patriot Act since you brought it up and i dont think you have a clue what it is i will help you. ( Oh heres my back-up for it http://www.cdt.org/security/011031summary.shtml for those who want to read it themselves. ) The Patriot Act is something that does nothing more than PROTECT your rights. People complain and bitch about how there information that is sent all around the internet every waking second of the day is unprotected from people who like to steal that information. Well the Patriot Act is being made to help Internet providers strengthen there firewalls and keep hackers out so that everything you do on the internet is secure. It also is helping the FBI CIA NSA or any other top lvl organization track down cyber criminals and terroriost or jstu any other joker screwing around with there computer, to be able to trap trace them and find there signal faster to get them behind bars. So to me that is protecting my right to privacy not trying to let everyone see it.

Now you said Roe vs. Wade ( for the people who want every bit of information http://www.tourolaw.edu/patch/Roe/ )

This case is nothing more than setting in motion up to today all the cases against aborations or whether it is right or wrong. That had nothing to do with womens rights, but it had to do with ethical rights. Which i cant argue against you becuase Ethical Rights is based on the person ethical decisions. But back then this lady wanted a aboration but was not given one becuase back then there had to be a direct medical reason that was at rick to the mother. But becuase the constitution was to vague the law was void becuase it didnt say yes or no to direct medical and bodily harm. So that has nothign to do with womens rights, since i the fact it is 32 years old and today things have changed.

Now onto your last few sentences where i ahve no clue what you mean since it has no meaning, but i do get what you say by Division of Church and State and that is an arguement that has been going on since Roman / Catholic times. Today it is a good thing that church adn state stay devided, but with this great nation being the land of the free, people are free to have all the religions in the world in this nation. Now since there are so many religions and so many coinsiding with each other, or course there is going to be some argument. Now i may be wrong on clarifying then tell me what you meant.

Wow. You can't believe how releived I am to hear that this isn't "real" and instead just "joking." For a minute I thought people would take these statements to heart.

Stop throwing obscenities around because it makes you look that much more unintelligent.

[Jaimecbr900]

Can you even put a paragraph together? So lets see whats on the chopping block. Loss of privacy: ( Patriot Act ) Women's right to control her own body: ( Soon to be gone Roe vs. Wade) The right for us not to have any one religion dictate political policy and rational thought: ( Seperation of Church and State disappearing) ..... I'll list more if you want me too but you can benifit from a little reading. Rubbie!

What's also comical is how the left always skews the truth to make it seem like the appocalypse is near.

Patriot Act was initiated as a result of 9/11, not some ultra right wing agenda. To be honest, the old adage of "if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about" fits here. Personally, I'll give them blood if they want. If it means that terrorists don't get to hide in the folds of our liberal laws only to pop up and murder innocents, then I'm all for it. Only people complaining about the "Patriot Act" are Liberals and Terrorists.

Roe VS Wade is far from repealment of abortion laws. You need to read up something besides the circular Mr. Kennedy sent you to understand what truly they are arguing about. It's not abolishing the jest of the ruling.

Separation of Church and State......give me a break. The only issue this should be about is about wussified America. You don't want to utter a word, don't say it. You get "offended" by reading the Ten Commandments when you are going to court to pay the taxes on your mobile home? Then don't read it and keep walking. When a Judge MAKES you recite the Ten Commandments, then complain and bitch. When the school district changes their curriculum to include "Religion 101", then complain and bitch. Until then, simply because someone utters the words "under GOD" while doing the pledge or there's a stone monument that reads "Ten Commandments" doesn't mean you can use that as your sole argument about separation of Church and State. It has been widely shown that there are is far more concrete proof that the founders of this country didn't intend for that to mean we should all turn into a country full of Politically Correct sissies that can't wipe their own asses for fear the guy in the next stall may smell it.

My

[MachNU]

^^^^

That is what i was trying to say when everytime he made an agrument against me he only danced around never tried to defend himself. He did the most left wing liberal thing and just danced around the answer. He doesnt have any concrete proof about what ever he argues. I may onyl be 18 but i love politics and i will argue to my grave about them, but when i do i will come with evidence about what i argue, until someone proves me wrong or gives me something to sit ther and say... "Wow he might have a point!"

[static]

Can you even put a paragraph together? So lets see whats on the chopping block. Loss of privacy: ( Patriot Act ) Women's right to control her own body: ( Soon to be gone Roe vs. Wade) The right for us not to have any one religion dictate political policy and rational thought: ( Seperation of Church and State disappearing) ..... I'll list more if you want me too but you can benifit from a little reading. Rubbie!

Who the fuck cares about making complete sentences on a message board. I don't see English 101 written on the thread title. The thread was about Bush and how your a cocksmoker and don't like him. I can agree with some aspects of how he's done a poor job but being ignorant and biased just because "he" beat out your pot smoking democrat Kerry doesn't mean you need to kill him for Katrina. That shit was Fema's fault and he just was man enough to take the shit people gave him for it. Pretty much everyone here would rather read information then Yahoo type bitching amongst children.

[Jaimecbr900]

Wow!!!!

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks this guy is off his rocker.

I wonder whom he'll blame next now that the house of cards has tumbled????

[MachNU]

LOL least hes not alwasy coming back against your post. i think he likes me i bash him then you guys rape his ass with bashes and he turns around and argues against me.

....i think he likes me.....!