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Not trying to offend but I read many of the pages on that site and I would have to say that whoever wrote that is very ignorant. Not to mention their statement about how the main idea of Republicans is tax cuts, they obviously aren't true republicans and have no understanding of what it means to be conservative. I love how it talks about Katrina like Bush sat and did nothing. He did exactly what he was supposed to do, he gave the issue over to FEMA, what else is he supposed to do? You want him to go down to NO and secure the levees himself? Again, not trying to offend just stating and opinion.
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I agree with you he did everything he was supposed to do.
^^^im with yall^^^ sometimes i wonder why people like that are here in america. Its free which means " Free to live here and FREE TO LEAVE" so if you dont like our country LEAVE and we will throw missles at your yellow ass as you make your way to france or cananda.
Sorry i get alittle PISSED off when i think about people talking shit about the president when Bush is keeping your ass free from Communism and anarchy.
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Typical ignorant statement that mocks every right that people have fought for by standing against what they saw to be unjust and wrong. Funny thing is its your own.
Ok, so those who petition the government, which is stated as a RIGHT in the bill of RIGHTS, should leave the country? Smart :jerkit:
Man i think i am jsut going to leave this one alone i dont want to make anyone fell stupid!!!!!! (and i mean the left wing liberals and the democrates)
You have such a way with spelling and grammar. But us liberals are too stupid to notice stupidity.
MUHAHAHAHAHA thats what happeneds when you are typing real fast and no going back and checking. Sucks to Rush!You have such a way with spelling and grammar. But us liberals are too stupid to notice stupidity.
Anyways someone who can openly call themselfs liberal is nothing more than ignorant. But i will grant that not all Democrats and Liberals are Left Wing Cocksuckers but most are. I am just still waiting for some dumbass liberal to blame the wind on blowing aginst bush or some other republican.
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haha, I had to laugh at this. This is ridiculous.
http://www.depresident.com/george-c-...bush-video.asp
sweet. I asume you fit into educational range too. You elected him.
You mean the statistical trend where more education=more republican identifying, with the notable statistical anomaly of 'graduate' education demographics?
While I should take that as a compliment, you already know (or at least should remember) that I never voted for him.
Unfortunately for you, that doesn't mean I'm going to let you get away with be a duplicitous bigot.
Word of advice: Do not attempt to impugn the intelligence of someone obviously more well-heeled in intellectual pursuits. It does not work.
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^^^that was great!!
Anyways that survey you cannot prove is right. Just becuase they took a certin amount of votes doesnt mean they tookt hem all. I can ask 10 peoples opinions and only use 5 of them if 5 said what i wanted to hear!!!
It's that damn racist weather machine
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go ahead and show me this data, wow ppl on welfare live a easy life. i dont see how anybody could only use welfare as thier only means of income. wow u need to go into proverty areas and stop watching tv. u need to meet ppl that are on it and see how they struggle to survive. i have seen single moms with 2 or more kids and working 2 jobs and still barely able to survive. sick and tired of ppl like u, that think they know everything and have not seen it first hand. i like how most of u so call christian-republicans act to your fellow man, but will call on god for everything else, only when it suits u
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Data? There is no data because a moocher is not going to agree they're a moocher. Where's your data come from?
Yep, most do have an easy life. No job, no responsability, let the gov't take care of everything for you. Your only job is to keep having babies, not make the fathers be financially responsible, and get everything you possibly can when you haven't ever paid any money INTO the system that's supporting you. Economics 101 says that will soon bankrupt any system, let alone one that's been mismanaged as long as the day is old.wow ppl on welfare live a easy life.
Then it absolutely CAN'T be true then, huh?i dont see how anybody could only use welfare as thier only means of income.
You don't know anything about me young man. I've BEEN dirt poor. So poor, my parents could only afford a 2 bedroom apt w/no hot water for a family of 6. We NEVER got welfare. My parents were down and out, but never took a handout. So don't talk down to me like you know me or assume where I come from. I've LIVED more poverty than you could fathom, let alone live yourself. Been there, done that, and couldn't buy the T-shirt.wow u need to go into proverty areas and stop watching tv.
People struggle to survive everyday. Majority don't take handouts too. Like I mentioned above, we ate plenty of jam sandwiches in my youth. Meet hell, I've lived it. There's a huge difference between needing help for a little bit and taking advantage of the system and being a mooch. There are far more abuses than you care to admit.u need to meet ppl that are on it and see how they struggle to survive.
Single moms struggle everyday. Doesn't mean they have to mooch. To be perfectly honest, single moms most of the time struggle because of dead beat fathers. There are laws that protect both the children and the single moms. They should use that and make fathers be responsible for their own children. They don't want to be there to father their children, that's sad, but you can damn sure make them pay support. Sure beats having to mooch.i have seen single moms with 2 or more kids and working 2 jobs and still barely able to survive.
Again, making a big mistake by ASSuming you know anything about me.sick and tired of ppl like u, that think they know everything and have not seen it first hand. i like how most of u so call christian-republicans act to your fellow man, but will call on god for everything else, only when it suits u
What does my religious belief have to do with anything? Fair is fair, mooching is mooching. There is a big difference between helping someone that is homeless and destitute and throwing money away on someone that has choices and keeps making the wrong ones. I have mercy and compassion for everyone, as long as they deserve it. I'm sick and tired of having to suck it up when it's my turn, only to see time and again where others take the easy way out.
Everyone that WANTS to work can. Mcdonalds is always hiring. Problem is that people make more money on welfare than WORKING for $5/hr. If you have your own business and make $10k/month and suddenly you go out of business, THAT's trouble. You ask for help until you get on your feet, fine. If you live in gov't housing for $250/mo, never had a job in your life, have 5 kids and CHOOSE NOT to make their father(s) pay for them, then you don't DESERVE to be supported by everyone else.
I've known someone that had 3 serious back surgeries, was immobile for over a year combined after those surgeries, had 2 knee surgeries requiring and additional 6 months of down time, suffers from migranes, still has back pain and knee pain to this day, in there somewhere had 2 children, and YET has NEVER ASKED NOR GOTTEN ANY HELP AT ALL. She had a boyfriend and that later became her husband supporting her the entire time like it was supposed to be done. He sucked it up and handled it. They paid for their own hospital bills w/o any insurance nor hand outs from the gov't. Her husband has never been w/o a job since he was 14 yrs old. She went back to working recently when they didn't financially need it, but thought was the right thing to do.
So, I'll give you 1 guess as to whom that is.......
Again, you don't know JACK about me. In turn, I know PLENTY about having a rough time and sucking it up and dealing with it rather than being a mooch.
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^^^^^I think that was just E-Ownage 1st Class.
DAM......
i think i will debate that comment later on, too tired right now
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LOL you cant debate that. What you said was ignorant! People use welfare to live off of and they do jsut fine with it. They dont live the high life but they also dont jsut scrape by, they have enough to where they dont need to work!
wow im ignorant, so u telling me half the ppl on welfare just sit on thier ass. just wow, maybe 5%, ok lets go as high as 40%. the govt need to have more measures to cutdown on the abuse. but i know for a fact that most people that are on it are hard workers. i say they should have a limit how long they can be on it, but to say that alot of them are just plain lazy isnt true
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NOT TRUE...............Its very dam true. I will grant you some do try to get off of it and so jsut cant help it either way but ALOT use it for free money. I have even known people who use it and literally know their abusing it. The only reason the government hasnt cracked down on it is becuase most usually jsut come up with an excuse, but most dont care if it is enough to get them through the week or month without them having to work they wont even try to get a job. But you are correct they dotn sit on there ass becuase there usually out spending the money elsewere.
Yep, that's what I'm saying.
But don't believe an old guy like me......here you go, young and old saying the same thing I am.....enjoy:
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hey lets not support our leaders and try to help them lets just make shit hard on them when it's not even like they can be reelected i can not see how you bush haters think your even patriots even if you dont agree with him support america dont hate and i cant wait to see what dumb fuck hillary can do
If hillary gets elected next election were FUCKED. Just as long as she doesnt do stupid shit like her husband who when he first had the twin towers attacked in 92 he turns around and makes a peace agreement with them. But msot liekyl she will have an assassination atempt on her life if she tries and run, and odds are it will be some texas hick or something along those lines. All i can say if she runs i would cut my nuts off before i voted for her.
Explain to me the moral responsibility of the Bush administration when they go from a budget surplus to one of the biggest muti-trillion dollar deficits. Check out this unbiased data on the budget deficit for each of the US presidents and explain to me why the Bush admin. has done what it has even going against many republicans doing such. Now they are talking about cutting student loans and social services to combat Katrina's 200billion dollar cost when the truth is that it incurred only a .2 percent blip of deficit compared to the deficit which the Bush admin. has incured. ???????? Tell why your party is so great and I can show you a 10 things that show they are not. Why do you keep supporting a party that is hell bent on hurting the very supporters of its party????
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OH GOD I THOUGHT YOU WHERE GONE. Dam you jsut dont give up. Just for your information the deficit since Clinton has gone out of office and Bush has come in has gone down. But since your blaming the weather on Bush and since he is using all this money to help people (which i dont understand why the persident would want to help people) i would expect the deficit to go back up. BUT if you look at a true data chart you would see that bush has gotten the deficit to go down since he has taken office. But since i am to lazy tonight i will get you the information tommorow.
Also if you want to blame someone on the Deficit do your homework and blame EVERYONE. Every president ha caused the national deficit to go up every presdient be it rep. demo. and since hte Democrats have held the office for 35 years and the Republicans 33 this being since the end of the depression the Democrats are at a cause of 8.9% and the Republicans are at 9.1 OH MY GOD THAT MUST MEAN ITS ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT. Just wait until the next Democrat gets office then they will take the lead in the Deficit cause.
Hopefully next time which i hope there isnt you open your mouth to argue you take our advise and come with something better. becuase so far you been shot down at all attempts to argue with something good.
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Why is it that all Bush haters attribute everything to Bush? Hurricanes, failed levees, the ENTIRE deficit that was INHERITED, yada yada.
That's so old already. Find something new. Maybe Global warming, Chinese torture, dingleberries, maybe even cavities.
Your only "research data" comes from Bush hating leftist .coms and it's getting so predictable.
Post something original and enlightening.....thought provoking.....debate worthy. Notice your topics go off on tangents if anywhere at all. Reason? You sound like a propaganda machine. Even the regular Bush haters here aren't so biased and one sided.
Do something different. You really aint that good at what you're doing now.
MUHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAWhy is it that all Bush haters attribute everything to Bush? Hurricanes, failed levees, the ENTIRE deficit that was INHERITED, yada yada.
That's so old already. Find something new. Maybe Global warming, Chinese torture, dingleberries, maybe even cavities.
Your only "research data" comes from Bush hating leftist .coms and it's getting so predictable.
Post something original and enlightening.....thought provoking.....debate worthy. Notice your topics go off on tangents if anywhere at all. Reason? You sound like a propaganda machine. Even the regular Bush haters here aren't so biased and one sided.
Do something different. You really aint that good at what you're doing now.
God i love when you answer the ignorant posts. LOL
GONE DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????????? You clearly don't read the news. Its an undisputable fact on both sides Democrat and Republican that the deficit has gone way way up since Bush has taken office. You need to ask your fellow Republicans whats going on because apparently your not in the know. They don't deny that they have turned a budget surplus into the largest deficit since WWII. They just have reasons to justify it. Its fact not opinion. Numbers cannot be disputed as they are fact. And as for my previous statement your party went and did it. Thanks for hurting the American people again. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051026/...ss_budget_cuts
And as for me giving up, just because I stop posting to the ignorant uninformed bamboozled comments doesn't mean I gave up. I just gave up on trying to show how clueless you truely are.
CLUELESS....out of everyone who has poste dhere everyone has called you wrong and proved you wrong. But you keep coming back for more. But once again i would bet that if a Democrat was in office you would be coming up with an excuse to why there deficit is going up...but like a democrat you are you blame even nature on a republican. The national deficit between the demos and reps is only a .2% DIFFERENCE, and that is BECAUSE there has been a republican president in the office for when there is times of wars, and when there has bene some of the baddiest Hurricane Seasons, i would hope the deficit goes up becuase they have to put out all this money to help the insurance companys cover all theys people so they can get back on there feet, and keep them from going under. But from what your saying since democrats are the saviors of this great nation that if a democrat was in office during theys times that they would try and save the deficit and tell theys people who lost everything to hurricane's that they have to fend for themselves?
You my friend are like any other democrat i have ever known or meet, all you see is to blame others and not look at the big picture. Why dont you do yourself a favor and REALLY study the democratic party and see about all the "great" things they have done for there nation. Oh and also i love how you bash bush and promote democrat leadership.....BUT if i am correct it was Jimmy Carter speaking on behalf of bush during his campign, and if i am correct Carter is a Democrat to the end or in his words "I am a democrat hands down and i will never vote Republican no matter what!" So if i am rightone of the highest democratic members in there delagation, spoke on behlf of bush and stands behind him and even agrees that he is doing hte right stuff.
If i am correct i think your nothing more than a Hypocrite!
actually no of yall have proved him wrong,and he is right you cat dispute pure numbers and fact. One we always go to war when republicans are in office but that not the point, when repblicans enter office the always do what they say they arent going to do. and democrats arent any better, but if you paid attention to facts when clition was in office we didnt go to war, and the economy was a hell of a lot better,we didnt go to war because we tried to avoid the stupid shit, unlike bush which actually was the same when his father was in office, clinton cleaned his shit up. and beside the point that when clintion let office he was one of the highest rated president ever, we wnet to war with bush for weapons of mass destruction which we never found and now the war has been switched to different reasons for us going about 20 times. basically you can disputed we went for the oil again and we have friend dying and we still dont know the real reason we went to war, al we know that we are still their now fight the war of terror which we didnt go there for in the first place. Now bush did go to the no and he could have went sooner, its fema job,but it is the president to evaluate the damage, he shot to flordia quick as hell when his brothers state got hit by the hurricane, and bush ratings has shot down to hell, even people who voted for him dissaprove of what hes doing,because its not making sense anymore.
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You read BIASED news if any at all.
How many wars and deadly hurricanes and leftover deficits did Clinton handle? Not a damn one. His portion of the deficit came straight from pork belly politics and paying for hookers to get his rocks off.Its an undisputable fact on both sides Democrat and Republican that the deficit has gone way way up since Bush has taken office.
Typical democrat spouting. Finger pointing, but sweeping under the rug their own involvement. :jerkit:
Funny how all your google quoting either has no references from which they got the data from or they interview only one side, i.e. Democrats. So of course they are going to be biased on their views.
Talk about clueless.
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As usual. Pointless. Oh.. the war. He started it. Oh the huricanes... there have been bad huricaine seasons before. And no one is also considering his tax cuts that mainly target higher income brackets and corporations. So funny. You defend him as companies take away your retirement, benifits and wages facilitated by laws passed by his Republican controlled congress. Too funny. You will get it one day... or maybe not. I can criticize my party when I disagree with what they endorse, but it seems all of you are like horses with blinders on walking gladly into the shit left by the other horses in your team. Rant some more, I clearly see you are not critcal of the decisions being made that directly affect you. I have an idea, how about all those who supported Bush and voted for him fgo fight in Iraq and pay for the ground breaking deficit he will leave behind. If you live long enough. Fair is fair. I can point you to the nearest recuiting office or bank.
LOL.
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Pointless to argue against me, yes. Glad you got that.
You blabbed about the "deficit" and I gave you concrete proof WHY there is one and now you wanna divert to whom started it. YOU sir are a bonafide card carrying liberal Democrat of the first degree.Oh.. the war. He started it.
You start a fight, then complain because you lose. Typical Democrat fashion.
Not at the same time as a WAR num nuts. Again, Democrats point the finger and say, "OH, look at all the spending...", yet don't tell the whole story. "Spending" can be traced back to the source easily. Why is it that the liberals only mention it, but don't disclose the disclaimers?????Oh the huricanes... there have been bad huricaine seasons before.
That's actually the only point I agree with you on. So called "tax cuts" aren't really all that good at all. I support the consumption tax idea myself. So, you won't get any arguments from me on this point.And no one is also considering his tax cuts that mainly target higher income brackets and corporations. So funny. You defend him as companies take away your retirement, benifits and wages facilitated by laws passed by his Republican controlled congress. Too funny. You will get it one day... or maybe not.
Open mouth, insert foot, repeat. It's getting to be a theme with you.I can criticize my party when I disagree with what they endorse, but it seems all of you are like horses with blinders on walking gladly into the shit left by the other horses in your team. Rant some more, I clearly see you are not critcal of the decisions being made that directly affect you.
I just proved your little theory all wrong with my statement above. I don't follow anything with "blinders" on as proved above. So once again, you're wrong.
I got yet another idea for YOU.......if you don't like it, buy a one-way ticket to France where you'll fit right in.......I have an idea, how about all those who supported Bush and voted for him fgo fight in Iraq and pay for the ground breaking deficit he will leave behind. If you live long enough. Fair is fair. I can point you to the nearest recuiting office or bank.
LOL.
That idea sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? Not any different than yours though. Love it or leave it. Don't you have more brain power to come up with a different rebuttal? That's a tired one. Come up with something original.
I'm going to leave the rest of your babbling aside to just point out a few things about this statement:
1) The reason tax cuts mainly target higher income brackets is because the lower income brackets pay virtually no income tax at all. The top 10% pays a massively disporportionate part of their income in taxes, when compared against how much % of total income they earn. This is both the democrats and republican's fault, they have been constantly shifting the tax burden to the smallest percentage of income earners as they can. By doing this, it becomes essentially impossible to pass any meaningful tax reform.
2) Thanks to those tax cuts, the projected defecit for the next few years (before Katrina, at least, I'm not sure what that's done to it) was significantly lower than expected, because cutting taxes invigorates the economy.
3) I will say this very slowly and in all caps, so you can understand it from an economics perspective: CORPORATIONS DO NOT PAY TAXES.
That's right, you heard me. Even if when the are 'paying taxes', they're not paying taxes. You cannot tax entities, you can only tax people. Taxes on corporations have to be paid for somehow, so they are integrated into the cost of everything you buy or use. So, a tax on corporations is just another tax piled on top of the consumer.
Further research into corporate income taxation shows that the US has some of the most draconian corporate income tax structures on the planet that make it very difficult for companies based in the US to compete internationally.
For example, if a company were based in Germany, they would pay income taxes to German government on money they generated in Germany. If they had a branch in the US, they would pay income tax to the US government for the money that branch made.
If a company is based in the US, and has a branch in Germany it pays income taxes on ALL MONEY earned OUTSIDE of the country. So not only is Generic American Company paying income tax to the US government for money earned in the US and the German government for money earned in Germany, but ALSO has to pay income tax to the US government on money earned IN GERMANY.
THIS is why the company is called Daimler-Chrysler and not Chrysler-Daimler.
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calm down on the name calling, debate not fight. one thing about this prz he has split this country in half. u must agree to that.
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