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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    So its justa race debate that will never end. I'm only saying that only 1 other instance happened in American history when a black man (fully black) ran and he FAILED horribly. So again, let the man do what he's trying to do and let the change occur if it shall be so. There is no reason to ask why the race of people is voting for that race of candidate.
    are you saying obama is fully black??

    AND NO ONE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IF ITS ABOUT RACE, WHERE WERE YALL FOR ALAN KEYES?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    are you saying obama is fully black??

    AND NO ONE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IF ITS ABOUT RACE, WHERE WERE YALL FOR ALAN KEYES?
    No thats why I said (fully black) No one recalls that other guy, whos name is slipping my mind.

    Why are u asking that anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    No thats why I said (fully black)
    ok i wasnt sure thats why i asked
    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    No one recalls that other guy, whos name is slipping my mind.
    i assume your referring to the other black person you spoke about who ran for president.
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    Why are u asking that anyway?
    Because some say its about race and if it was then why didnt they vote for Alan Keyes. he was a black republican nominee(he didnt get a lot of media attn).

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    ok i wasnt sure thats why i asked

    i assume your referring to the other black person you spoke about who ran for president.

    Because some say its about race and if it was then why didnt they vote for Alan Keyes. he was a black republican nominee(he didnt get a lot of media attn).
    I've actually never heard of him (Alan Keyes) He got no attention cuz he didnt pull the money, since politics seems to be all about money, none about substance. Like rappers and bittches.

    But yea, I was refering to a candidate that ran before we were born. Tony knows, if he QUOTES me. But I cant think of his name at the moment. Alan got lost in the crowd.

    This election is unique and I'm glad we have a toss up. White dude/ Black-ish dude/ and a woman. This may never happen again. It gives up a choice, like the choices we have to buy cars/homes/clothes/food and even hoes.

    So I like this and I'm glad 3 types are represented, its all fair game and America can actually CHOOSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    This election is unique and I'm glad we have a toss up.father of time dude/ Black-ish dude/ and the devil with a vagina. This may never happen again. It gives up a choice, like the choices we have to buy cars/homes/clothes/food and even hoes.
    fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    I've actually never heard of him (Alan Keyes) He got no attention cuz he didnt pull the money, since politics seems to be all about money, none about substance. Like rappers and bittches.

    But yea, I was refering to a candidate that ran before we were born. Tony knows, if he QUOTES me. But I cant think of his name at the moment. Alan got lost in the crowd.

    This election is unique and I'm glad we have a toss up. White dude/ Black-ish dude/ and a woman. This may never happen again. It gives up a choice, like the choices we have to buy cars/homes/clothes/food and even hoes.

    So I like this and I'm glad 3 types are represented, its all fair game and America can actually CHOOSE.
    I had to do some research cause I knew Alan Keyes' name sounded familiar, ironically do you know he lost to Barack Obama in the Illinois State senate race? Interesting, he's a republican too.. no way blacks are going to swarm to him on that notion alone.

    Jesse Jackson ran for the democratic nomination in 84 and 88, we see how that worked out.

    In all of this please remember that Hillary Clinton at the beginning of the democratic primary had over 60% of the black support going into this thing, it wasn't until he won South Carolina and Bill Clinton said what he said that the tide changed.. its hard to offend an entire race of people (even unintentionally) and expect their support.

    Same goes with John McCain, how can he expect to gain the support of black democrats when he voted against the MLK holiday? People change but at the same time people do not forget, theres so many other factors in this presidential race that minimize the importance of racial bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I had to do some research cause I knew Alan Keyes' name sounded familiar, ironically do you know he lost to Barack Obama in the Illinois State senate race? Interesting, he's a republican too.. no way blacks are going to swarm to him on that notion alone.

    Jesse Jackson ran for the democratic nomination in 84 and 88, we see how that worked out.

    In all of this please remember that Hillary Clinton at the beginning of the democratic primary had over 60% of the black support going into this thing, it wasn't until he won South Carolina and Bill Clinton said what he said that the tide changed.. its hard to offend an entire race of people (even unintentionally) and expect their support.

    Same goes with John McCain, how can he expect to gain the support of black democrats when he voted against the MLK holiday? People change but at the same time people do not forget, theres so many other factors in this presidential race that minimize the importance of racial bias.
    I cannot agree more.

    Ok, he is black, so? He is an open-minded, charismatic, intelligent, kind-hearted man. He appeals to people, he listens to people, and he did not conform to the "brotha man", as people call it. He is for EVERYBODY, even the people who hate his skin color and partial nationality.

    He plans to do all he can to put things in place to help better this country. Change the mindset, and good things are to follow.

    ALSO......

    Obama and McCain both spoke in front of the NAACP. Ballsy move for both candidates. You may think ".....Obama fits in, McCain had no chance.." WRONG! Obama walked around questions and topics of interest. Obama ran into a group of individuals that demanded more than the average American voter. McCain, damnit, answered questions! He left he NAACP Convention with the respect of alot of black voters. Sure, they may not switch their vote immediately, but he left a positive impact.

    The Presidental race is, partially, based on color. It is new to everyone. People are now realizing change mentally.

    -White voters realize that Obama is not the "black" guy they think of majority of the day. He is not about the bull****, he means business. F**k with him, and you will get ran over.

    -Black people are realizing that "aint s**t walking but the facts". Time to wake up, do better, and stop allowing excuses to make them. There is no "the man" unless you want there to be one.

    I am black.......and I VOTE BILL COSBY!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I had to do some research cause I knew Alan Keyes' name sounded familiar, ironically do you know he lost to Barack Obama in the Illinois State senate race? Interesting, he's a republican too.. no way blacks are going to swarm to him on that notion alone.

    Jesse Jackson ran for the democratic nomination in 84 and 88, we see how that worked out.

    ...Bill Clinton said what he said that the tide changed.. its hard to offend an entire race of people (even unintentionally) and expect their support.

    Same goes with John McCain, how can he expect to gain the support of black democrats when he voted against the MLK holiday?
    Oh thats who he was? Lol, well thats why I never heard of him, or I joined "watching the news" to deep into the general election.

    Jesse is who it was. I saw it on "I love '84" and forgot. But yea, he was waaaaay ahead of the times and just lost in spectacular fashion.

    Bill messed up period being "racist" anyway while trying to cockblock Obama. He has all kinds of lil remarks that frustate me, even though I like him. HIllary on the other hand, just trys to spit game to the public (albit she does a good job) but not even my Aunt supported her views and my aunt is obviously a woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blaknoize
    Oh thats who he was? Lol, well thats why I never heard of him, or I joined "watching the news" to deep into the general election.

    Jesse is who it was. I saw it on "I love '84" and forgot. But yea, he was waaaaay ahead of the times and just lost in spectacular fashion.

    Bill messed up period being "racist" anyway while trying to cockblock Obama. He has all kinds of lil remarks that frustate me, even though I like him. HIllary on the other hand, just trys to spit game to the public (albit she does a good job) but not even my Aunt supported her views and my aunt is obviously a woman.



    he was not waaaaay ahead of his time



    Jesse Jackson is a ****ing moron is the problem
    although i don't like Obama, hes atleast intelligent
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