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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    Keeping in mind that past presidents more or less trained, armed, and had an influence in some of our present enemies coming into power, I don't think that speaking diplomatically can be any worse of an approach......
    So does that mean that we should exterminate all Muslims because they are following their "commands" from Allah himself???? In other words, what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? So what if yesterday they were our friend and today they're not. Hell, Iran was fine until Khomeini took over too.....look at them now. We "sat down" with them to break bread back in the 70's many times with Pahlavi. Did that guarantee that 10yrs later they were our sworn enemy? Nope. Why? Cause $hit happens. Khomeini led a revolution, and voila there you are. Friends no more.

    So, we should sit down with all the TERRORISTS and have some tea to discuss what WE can do to apeace them enough not to send the next guy trying to become a martyr to KILL ALL OF US???? On what level does that make any sense?

    Again, this really boils down to the "let's give little junior whatever the hell he wants just to keep him quiet in the store" mentality. Much like parents that deal with their children that way, the problem NEVER gets better. It only gets far far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    So does that mean that we should exterminate all Muslims because they are following their "commands" from Allah himself???? In other words, what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? So what if yesterday they were our friend and today they're not. Hell, Iran was fine until Khomeini took over too.....look at them now. We "sat down" with them to break bread back in the 70's many times with Pahlavi. Did that guarantee that 10yrs later they were our sworn enemy? Nope. Why? Cause $hit happens. Khomeini led a revolution, and voila there you are. Friends no more.

    So, we should sit down with all the TERRORISTS and have some tea to discuss what WE can do to apeace them enough not to send the next guy trying to become a martyr to KILL ALL OF US???? On what level does that make any sense?

    Again, this really boils down to the "let's give little junior whatever the hell he wants just to keep him quiet in the store" mentality. Much like parents that deal with their children that way, the problem NEVER gets better. It only gets far far worse.


    I totally understand what you're saying and on this one we're going to have to agree to disagree amicably....good points made though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    I totally understand what you're saying and on this one we're going to have to agree to disagree amicably....good points made though...
    That's cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    Of all the people you mentioned that Obama has supposedly associated with, NOT ONE is of any notable importance because of legality issues.....
    Not any single one means a whole lot to me. But look at the full picture. How many people with the same hate for white people and America can a person associate with before people realize he also shares those views?

    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    How many of our presidents and candidates running for president have been linked to criminals...?

    Guiliani definitely was.....
    Clinton was....
    Reagan was....with terrorists who are either now on our radar or we've already gotten rid of...
    Bush the 1st was as well......
    Most of them had friends dealing with white collar issues. Obama has at least one of those too. We are talking about an unrepentant terrorist, Ayers. Nation of Islam leader, Farakhan, who has also openly announced his hate for Jews, and whites.


    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    So, it's more of a concern for some of you that he's had dealings with religious and political leaders rather than terrorists, arms sellers, drug runners, and dictators...?
    Religious and political fanatics is what you mean. None of the men around Obama have a positive influance on those that follow them. They teach or preach hate.



    Quote Originally Posted by StuntallDay
    [Also while the issue at hand is about who interacts with whom...wouldn't it be safe to say that if the U.S hadn't had a hand in back door dealings that perhaps we would not have such a piss poor image with a lot of the world today...? Wouldn't it stand to reason that if we hadn't trained people and then flipped the script and yanked the chain on one time under the table "allies" that perhaps events like 9/11 wouldn't have happened?
    we endorsed some of those in our Proxy wars with Iran and the USSR back in the 80's. We had been attacked before that time though because of our support for Isreal. No matter what the US does in any other area, as long as we continue to support Isreal we will be an enemy of those fanatics.

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    People keep pointing out that Obama is a risk because he wants to sit down and open dialogue with terrorist leaders but isn't that better than getting in bed with them? Isn't wanting to be proactive as opposed to reactive an admirable quality?
    Obama is a risk because he is naive. If we are to believe that he didnt know the type of people that he was around for 20 years he is going to be embarassed in front of the world by the tyrants of the warld when he meets with them with no pre-conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    So does that mean that we should exterminate all Muslims because they are following their "commands" from Allah himself???? In other words, what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? So what if yesterday they were our friend and today they're not. Hell, Iran was fine until Khomeini took over too.....look at them now. We "sat down" with them to break bread back in the 70's many times with Pahlavi. Did that guarantee that 10yrs later they were our sworn enemy? Nope. Why? Cause $hit happens. Khomeini led a revolution, and voila there you are. Friends no more.

    So, we should sit down with all the TERRORISTS and have some tea to discuss what WE can do to apeace them enough not to send the next guy trying to become a martyr to KILL ALL OF US???? On what level does that make any sense?

    Again, this really boils down to the "let's give little junior whatever the hell he wants just to keep him quiet in the store" mentality. Much like parents that deal with their children that way, the problem NEVER gets better. It only gets far far worse.
    Just wondering what Iran has done lately to classify them as terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Just wondering what Iran has done lately to classify them as terrorists.
    Ummm, Tony.....having a bad day??

    That's two separate paragraphs. I was showing how we were friends with Iran one time and now we're not. THEN, I mentioned about sitting down with Terrorists.....not that Iran is one of those coming to the table.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Ummm, Tony.....having a bad day??

    That's two separate paragraphs. I was showing how we were friends with Iran one time and now we're not. THEN, I mentioned about sitting down with Terrorists.....not that Iran is one of those coming to the table.....

    lol Yeah man, its the heat and humidity.. sorry about that

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    in short, we're fvcked...esp if he gets hillary as a running mate...

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    Little Ceasar gonna own all you Ol I love to chat about politcs cause boutta get drafted to RINES and get merked up and be in the bunker killin protoss... alien, reptAIlien, all up in the hymalayeens, all man I'm just saying.. ole brainwashed by television and so brainwashed that brainwashing is like invisible grip locking


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