Obama won, now what?

[osnap]

Obama is obvious the better canidate.

im on your side here, dont get me wrong, but a post like this is honestly worthless. back it up, dude.

[twinj]

im on your side here, dont get me wrong, but a post like this is honestly worthless. back it up, dude.

Yea I know. I am at work so can't really make a Bio. IMO he is the one that is in the streets working for the people. The other two canidate (McCain-another bush), Hillary(is just power hungry and seem to be saying anything to get in there.)

[Blitanicle99]

Everyone talks about how tho Obama has no experiance and neither did other presidents.

I think its a huge issue of times have changed. Our society cannot be run by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Our country will fall fast if that happens. Maybe 50 years ago, this was acceptable. Today it isnt. Presidents need some kind of experiance and I personally think military should be one of them.

[tony]

Everyone talks about how tho Obama has no experiance and neither did other presidents.

I think its a huge issue of times have changed. Our society cannot be run by someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Our country will fall fast if that happens. Maybe 50 years ago, this was acceptable. Today it isnt. Presidents need some kind of experiance and I personally think military should be one of them.

By your rationale EXPERIENCE wasn't necessary at a time when this country was at war with itself, when a race of people were being killed in Germany, when our entire Western Fleet of our Navy was bombed, during the Greatest economic depression to ever hit this country but its OH SO important now? Do you even read or understand how serious this history is in this country? If you did something like that wouldn't even cross your mind. Our generation has seen nothing like the Civil War and as I said before Lincoln became historic for his judgement and his ability to adapt to the conditions rather than his experience.

Come with facts as to why experience (especially military) is important and not talking points lifted from the republican agenda. Some of you claim to expect substance from Obama but you don't even speak with it yourselves.

[Jaimecbr900]

BTW, I didn't intend this thread to be some kind of platform for Mccain for 08 thing. I really wanted to see just how truly informed Obama supporters are about what's going on now and happen in the future.

I mean when I saw the other night on TV people literally counting down like it was New Year's eve and boo-hoo crying when it was announced......I just have to try and understand what all the hoopla is about. To be honest, I don't think most of his supporters even know.

[Jaimecbr900]

Well Tony, as much as I respect your opinion and you've always shown to really know your stuff.....you didn't give a focused synopsis on Barrack.

If you look at all those "bills", it would SEEM that it was A: All thought up by Mr. Obama, or B: that they all had some kind of impact. Reality is that the overwhelming majority of ALL of those "bills" were #1 CO-SPONSORED (which means everything from Co-wrote to bandwagon jumping) by Obama and more importantly NOT passed into any meaningful laws. They either got stuck in committee or vetoed by Bush. He did get a bunch of resolutions and BS fluffer legislature passed either tagged along with other bills or as stand alone resolutions. Things so earth shattering as "National and Global Youth service day" and resolution to wish a fellow Senator "a speedy recovery from surgery"..... This is what the Barrack camp would proudly stand behind as part of an elustrive resume of legislative stances????? Kidding me, right?

So, yes, technically and historically Barrack Obama has CO-SPONSORED a ton of things and even got 2 things that HE sponsored passed and approved. But in reality, most of the things he's done in almost 10 yrs of politics add up to a lot of "puffing the goods" IMO.

BTW, you can always look everything up for yourselves in the Library of Congress. Here's the link:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

Seriously, how come the CEO of a major company has to have all these qualifications to lead a company, yet everyone wants to gloss over the FACT that one of the contenders to lead this COUNTRY is a relative unknown. Is that always a bad thing? Maybe not. Maybe so.

My reservations about Obama stem from his views on National Security and his Socialist background. I don't like that. Not for someone that is supposed to be a representation of what I believe in and stand for. FOR ME, it's not a good fit.

[Vteckidd]

Well Tony, as much as I respect your opinion and you've always shown to really know your stuff.....you didn't give a focused synopsis on Barrack.

If you look at all those "bills", it would SEEM that it was A: All thought up by Mr. Obama, or B: that they all had some kind of impact. Reality is that the overwhelming majority of ALL of those "bills" were #1 CO-SPONSORED (which means everything from Co-wrote to bandwagon jumping) by Obama and more importantly NOT passed into any meaningful laws. They either got stuck in committee or vetoed by Bush. He did get a bunch of resolutions and BS fluffer legislature passed either tagged along with other bills or as stand alone resolutions. Things so earth shattering as "National and Global Youth service day" and resolution to wish a fellow Senator "a speedy recovery from surgery"..... This is what the Barrack camp would proudly stand behind as part of an elustrive resume of legislative stances????? Kidding me, right?

So, yes, technically and historically Barrack Obama has CO-SPONSORED a ton of things and even got 2 things that HE sponsored passed and approved. But in reality, most of the things he's done in almost 10 yrs of politics add up to a lot of "puffing the goods" IMO.

BTW, you can always look everything up for yourselves in the Library of Congress. Here's the link:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

Seriously, how come the CEO of a major company has to have all these qualifications to lead a company, yet everyone wants to gloss over the FACT that one of the contenders to lead this COUNTRY is a relative unknown. Is that always a bad thing? Maybe not. Maybe so.

My reservations about Obama stem from his views on National Security and his Socialist background. I don't like that. Not for someone that is supposed to be a representation of what I believe in and stand for. FOR ME, it's not a good fit.

see this is what is in my head, jaime just puts it into words for me lol

[tony]

Well Tony, as much as I respect your opinion and you've always shown to really know your stuff.....you didn't give a focused synopsis on Barrack.

If you look at all those "bills", it would SEEM that it was A: All thought up by Mr. Obama, or B: that they all had some kind of impact. Reality is that the overwhelming majority of ALL of those "bills" were #1 CO-SPONSORED (which means everything from Co-wrote to bandwagon jumping) by Obama and more importantly NOT passed into any meaningful laws. They either got stuck in committee or vetoed by Bush. He did get a bunch of resolutions and BS fluffer legislature passed either tagged along with other bills or as stand alone resolutions. Things so earth shattering as "National and Global Youth service day" and resolution to wish a fellow Senator "a speedy recovery from surgery"..... This is what the Barrack camp would proudly stand behind as part of an elustrive resume of legislative stances????? Kidding me, right?

So, yes, technically and historically Barrack Obama has CO-SPONSORED a ton of things and even got 2 things that HE sponsored passed and approved. But in reality, most of the things he's done in almost 10 yrs of politics add up to a lot of "puffing the goods" IMO.

BTW, you can always look everything up for yourselves in the Library of Congress. Here's the link:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

Seriously, how come the CEO of a major company has to have all these qualifications to lead a company, yet everyone wants to gloss over the FACT that one of the contenders to lead this COUNTRY is a relative unknown. Is that always a bad thing? Maybe not. Maybe so.

My reservations about Obama stem from his views on National Security and his Socialist background. I don't like that. Not for someone that is supposed to be a representation of what I believe in and stand for. FOR ME, it's not a good fit.

This is really all I want.. challenge the man on his policy and get informed. My issue comes from manufactured situations used to scare people not to vote for him. If you don't want to vote for Barack.. let it be because he wants windfall profit taxes on Oil Corps, don't do it because you think Michelle Obama is not patriotic or he wont wear a lapel pin.

I take the same issue for those who support Obama only because he is black or because Hillary is a woman.