WTF is Hillary thinking???

[ThaABomb]

I'm glad to hear that the "keep the white house white" comment was just a joke. I thought it was a serious comment, and I was concerned.

I never said Obama was experienced, I just said he was qualified. He's an intelligent, well educated politician, which is more than we can say for our current president.

like i said time and time again who would let some joe shmoe come off the street work in shop not doing anthing important in the shop tun their car?????

If you found a Joe Schmoe that knows nothing about cars, but is really intelligent and passionate about learning how to work on cars, I'd say he'd be worth hiring. He may not know what he's doing right now, but with some help, he has the potential to be a great tuner. Obama has the potential to be a great leader, even if he doesn't already have a lot of experience. Also, someone with experience is someone that has the same mindset as all the other politicians. Perhaps it's time we got some fresh perspective in the white house.

The fact that his middle name is "Hussein" and that he's muslim is about as important (to me) as his eye color and his favorite song. I don't care if his name is Osama Bin Laden and he worships clowns; if he could get us out of Iraq with no adverse effects in a week, I'd vote for him. I'm not saying that Obama can get us out of Iraq in a week, I'm simply saying that anything about him that doesn't directly relate to how effective a president he will be is irrelevant to this discussion.

Lastly, McCain has a crazy-ass pastor too, so go ahead and just toss the whole "crazy pastor" argument out the window.

[tony]

If you found a Joe Schmoe that knows nothing about cars, but is really intelligent and passionate about learning how to work on cars, I'd say he'd be worth hiring. He may not know what he's doing right now, but with some help, he has the potential to be a great tuner. Obama has the potential to be a great leader, even if he doesn't already have a lot of experience. Also, someone with experience is someone that has the same mindset as all the other politicians. Perhaps it's time we got some fresh perspective in the white house.

To add on to that Lincoln knew absolutely nothing about war when he into office but managed to preside over the civil war and took a personal interest in war strategy.

Any employer will take the candidate that is eager to learn rather than the one with experience because more than likely, the one with experience is stuck in their ways.

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like i keep saying all obama needs is to get alil more experience under his belt and then he would probally make a great leader..... and tony i do my reasearch and when i talk about legistlative accomplishments i mean what boards does he sit on, what bills did he back to try to push it through the senate, and what did he do to help the country.... that all adds experience and gets recorded for public reasearch... all i can find that he did was that he was more concerned with becoming the presidential candidate than was he a great senator for illinois........ i write my congressman every chance i get but all i get is a damn post card saying thank you for thinking about your congressman and a pin for his re election.... one makes the go eh it takes more that one peon to change a senator's mindset......that is what i am saying about obama i am not a crazy that goes around oh no his middle name is a muslim one, oh no his pastor is racist.... i am wait a sec he hasn't tried to do anything of importance in the senate other than show up and vote.... that is all i am saying and if all the candidates keep moving the way they are i am putting my name on a write in ticket... i was a bob barr supporter but he has gotten me ill about some policies so i am waiting all the way till election day to decide... but i know i am not voting for obama just the fact i don't like his polocies and he doesn't have enough experience for my liking and for the people who think i am racist psst he is half white....

[tony]

like i keep saying all obama needs is to get alil more experience under his belt and then he would probally make a great leader..... and tony i do my reasearch and when i talk about legistlative accomplishments i mean what boards does he sit on, what bills did he back to try to push it through the senate, and what did he do to help the country.... that all adds experience and gets recorded for public reasearch... all i can find that he did was that he was more concerned with becoming the presidential candidate than was he a great senator for illinois........ i write my congressman every chance i get but all i get is a damn post card saying thank you for thinking about your congressman and a pin for his re election.... one makes the go eh it takes more that one peon to change a senator's mindset......that is what i am saying about obama i am not a crazy that goes around oh no his middle name is a muslim one, oh no his pastor is racist.... i am wait a sec he hasn't tried to do anything of importance in the senate other than show up and vote.... that is all i am saying and if all the candidates keep moving the way they are i am putting my name on a write in ticket... i was a bob barr supporter but he has gotten me ill about some policies so i am waiting all the way till election day to decide... but i know i am not voting for obama just the fact i don't like his polocies and he doesn't have enough experience for my liking and for the people who think i am racist psst he is half white....

Legislation he has sponsored or co-sponsored on a national level:

The SAFE Act (Security and Freedom Enhancement ) - The SAFE Act safeguards a number of intrusive Patriot Act powers

Ethics Reform in Illinois - This one isn't on a national level but interrogations have to be taped in Illinois thanks to Obama, even more impressive is how he garnered support from his opposition by going to the Prisons, getting on the ground floor and playing basketball with victims of police brutality.. the Bill passed with not 1 opposing vote.

The Congressional Ethics Enforcement Commission Act -
The bill would create an outside ethics commission to receive complaints from the public on alleged ethics violations by members of Congress, staff, and lobbyists.

The Transparency and Integrity in Earmarks Act - The bill would shed light on the almost 16,000 earmarks that were included in spending bills in 2005. Under the bill, all earmarks, including the name of the requestor and a justification for the earmark, would have to be disclosed 72 hours before they could be considered by the full Senate. Senators would be prohibited from advocating for an earmark if they have a financial interest in the project or earmark recipient. And, earmark recipients would have to disclose to an Office of Public Integrity the amount that they have spent on registered lobbyists and the names of those lobbyists.

The Curtailing Lobbyist Effectiveness through Advance Notification, Updates, and Posting Act (The CLEAN UP Act) - The bill aims to improve public access to information about all legislation, including conference reports and appropriations legislation, in particular after hurried, end-of-session negotiations.

Senator Obama is a cosponsor of the Medicare Informed Choice Act - Which would extend enrollment without penalty until the end of 2006. This bill would also allow all Part D beneficiaries to change their plan once during 2006.

The National MEDiC Act - Which promotes patient safety initiatives, including early disclosure and compensation to patients injured by medical errors.

Hospital Quality Report Card Act - Which will use federal hospital quality reporting requirements to inform and assist patients and other consumers in making their health care decisions.

Federal Employees Health Benefits Program Efficiency Act - Which would leverage the federal government's purchasing power to encourage increased adoption of technology by participating health plan.

Attacking Viral Influenza Across Nations Act - Which calls for collaboration and cooperation at the state, national, and international level to ensure preparedness in the event of pandemic influenza.

Lead Free Toys Act - Requiring the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) to ban any children's product containing lead.

Healthy Communities Act - To identify and address problems in communities that are at high risk from environmental contaminants.

Senator Obama introduced two bills - the Mercury Market Minimization Act (S. 3627) and the Missing Mercury in Manufacturing Monitoring and Mitigation Act (S. 3631) These bills would significantly reduce the amount of mercury that is deposited in oceans, lakes, and rivers, which in turn would reduce the amount of mercury in fish.

Senator Obama successfully passed legislation in the Senate to force the Pentagon to work towards an efficient electronic medical records system that will help ensure better care for our nation's troops.

Comittee's Obama sits on:

Foreign Relations Committee
-African Affairs Subcommittee
-East Asia & Pacific Affairs Subcommittee
-European Affairs (Chairman) Subcommittee
-International Development & Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs & International Environmental Protection Subcommittee

Health, Education, Labor & Pension Committee

-Children & Families Subcommittee
-Employment & Workplace Safety Subcommittee

Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs Committee

-Ad Hoc Committee on State, Local & Private Sector Preparedness & Integration
-Investigations Subcommittee
-Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services & International Security Subcommittee

Veterans’ Affairs Committee


I think it is a bit presumptuous to say that all Obama does is sit in the senate and do nothing. By the way, that isnt even half of the legislation that Obama has proposed.

[ash7]

Lastly, McCain has a crazy-ass pastor too, so go ahead and just toss the whole "crazy pastor" argument out the window.

John Hagee and Rod Parsely retracted their endorsements of John McCain; aside from that fact - there is no comparison to Jeremiah Wright's relationship with Obama. John McCain had met Parsely 3 weeks before he spoke at the event where he endorsed him. And John Hagee's comments were met with immediate denunciation - whereas it took Obama saying that "abandoning Rev. Wright would be to abandon the black community"... three weeks later - he does just that.

The official notes that Rev. Wright married Obama, baptized his children and has served as his spiritual adviser for 20 years, whereas McCain received Parsley’s endorsement at one event and has never attended his service.

-jonathan