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    I have to wonder why so many people are against the production of ethanol? There are other ways to get it other than corn.

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    Maybe we are actually reaching what is called "Peak Oil."

    But $.18 isnt gonna do anything whatsoever to me or my feelings for Clinton or the race of the price of gas. I'm still gonna drive long distances just in a smaller, lower HP car to keep it reasonable for my small pockets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    I have to wonder why so many people are against the production of ethanol? There are other ways to get it other than corn.
    I think most people are against corn ethanol. If we developed ethanol like they use in Brazil, I think it might become more popular. However, ethanol has less energy in it than gasoline does, so you'd be buying more ethanol at a cheaper price to equal the same gasoline. Which I think in the end, would just be a wash anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackshine007
    That would mean making this country profitable again instead of relying on other countries to take care of us. We depend on China heavily for stuff we're too lazy or too cheap to build ourselves. We Depend on South America, Iraq and middle europe for oil, when we in fact have plenty of reseviors here. We're so used to being spoon fed by everyone else trying to make sure everyone else is taking care of we forgot about ourselves. What is 18 cents gonna do for anyone? It might help a little bit, but the tax is gonna be taken back in some other form. I'm not down for it. South America has their own oil too. but they don't have a huge depenence on it like we do. Their cars are powered mostly on ethanol. They get rid of the sugar cane in the most resourceful way possible being that they have an overabundance of it and make money off any buyers on their oils. Great strategy
    Sorry to break it to you but the reason we are depending on these other countries is because of the hideous tax rate on corporations in this country!

    We have plenty of oil here but the environmentalist tree-huggers are keeping us from getting to it.

    Ethanol? Ethanol was the stupidest idea ever as an alternative fuel. Hell it takes 1 gallon of gas to make 1 gallon of ethanol. Now farmers are all growing corn to sell to ethanol producers and it is causing the price of all food to go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JConner

    Ethanol? Ethanol was the stupidest idea ever as an alternative fuel. Hell it takes 1 gallon of gas to make 1 gallon of ethanol. Now farmers are all growing corn to sell to ethanol producers and it is causing the price of all food to go up.
    The 1:1 statistic dates back to the 70's, technology has far advanced since then and is no longer relavent or true.. You mean to tell me Brazil can produce ethanol and turn a nice profit but somehow its not profitable here? There are tons of options with Ethanol, wheat grain instead of corn, even Coors (yes the beer company) is able to produce ethanol with their waste but you know why this doesn't come to the forefront?

    Big oil companies are the ones handling the production of ethanol which is a conflict of interest and a market monopoly, independent companies that specialize in ONLY ethanol should receive subsidies to advance ethanol as competition for oil.. that is the ONLY way gas prices come down if there is competition.

    I'd tend to think you guys here would absolutely love ethanol, ethanol has a 110-113 octane rating (smarter people can explain why this may have an effect on the gas mileage cause i don't know) so essentially you would be running around on race gas full time at a lesser price than gasoline, not to mention ethanol is cleaner the gasoline as well.

    Biodiesel is another alternative that amazingly can be produced from the waste of restaurants. I just have to say I love how some of you complain about gas prices then are quick to shoot down viable alternatives because of what is circulated instead of doing real research. Our dependency on oil is ruining this country and funding terrorism, is ethanol really THAT bad?

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    Ethanol isn't that bad, but its not the ideal solution. Personally I think electric cars (i.e. Fisker Karma or the Tesla car) and hydrogen powered (i.e. the BMW Hydrogen 7) are the ways of the future. The question is, will that future be realized anytime soon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironchef
    I think most people are against corn ethanol. If we developed ethanol like they use in Brazil, I think it might become more popular. However, ethanol has less energy in it than gasoline does, so you'd be buying more ethanol at a cheaper price to equal the same gasoline. Which I think in the end, would just be a wash anyway.

    In your car yes, don't be so quick to write these things off. Nothing is efficient to optimal levels in the early stages of development.

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