also i understand that the car listed in my thread is bad with gas . But my round trip to work is 4 miles i need gas about every 3 weeks or even longer i try to ride with others so save gas. Anyways sorry to upset anyone i just thought it would be nice to see if anyone gave to shits about the world and how it was going. But it seems everyone has given up and is just willing to deal with being taken for a ride on everything.. Gas prices,Taxes, Government taking you for a ride. Excuse me for thinking power should be in the hands of the consumer! so the moral of the story is War sucks , we pay taxes in and out of war time that the constitution says we shouldn't and everything is just ok because we as a nation have given up ..