Split Fulton County?

[The Ninja]

Since you want to get into the ring, where exactly does YOUR numbers come from?

Name exactly who it is you refer to that "needs" benefits but doesn't get them? Now compare that number to the number of people that abuse those benefits they do get.

Furthermore, As SteveO perfectly said...I'm not bitching/debating about people who get what they deserve. I'm pointing out that people should have the right to see to it that their hard earned money shouldn't be squandered and even worse have to go to support someone who is not pulling their own weight in the scale of society. That is what the residents of N. Fulton Co. are wanting to say when they say they'd rather support themselves than the WHOLE county. I don't blame them. When you pay your own property taxes, you'll agree as well.

Question for ya: Would you rather 1 innocent person be sent to prison by mistake along with 100 guilty ones or let 100 guilty people free along with the innocent one?

Same thing is going on with your logic. You'd rather maintain the present course which is obvious DOES NOT work, ie. why it's going bankrupt, than it is to make changes which will inherentlly make it more difficult for people to get their deserving and needed benefits. Let's not inconvinience a few for the benefit of 10x's more? How's that logical?

If your plan didn't have flaws it would be passed without change. You have to understand Politicians have to get the votes, and to fix that you'd have to fix our legal system. Such as instead of having a President campaigning for 3 of their 4 year 1st terms, having them get shit done. But thats another topic.

There are flaws to your plans, and I'm just too lazy to point them out because that would be too much typing. If we were having a discussion and this came up I'd gladly step up to the plate. I don't suggest continuing the present course, I'd say it needs fixing, but that only takes time. And from your point of view its time we don't have.

Well I'm too lazy to get deep into this arguement, I just wanted o'boy to know that not all of IA sided with Jaime or you on this. (nothing personal, honest), And that I enjoyed reading this debate. I'm honestly considering printing sections of this out (minus the bullshit) and taking it to my Current Issues class and discussing it with them.


Fact of the matter is, the bill isn't gonna pass. Period. And anyone who doubts me can put $$$ down on the table (but not alot, cuz i'm poor). I'll put $30 on the table saying the bill will not pass.

[Jaimecbr900]

If your plan didn't have flaws it would be passed without change.

Flaws??? What flaws??? Didn't you get the memo about me being perfect??? JP.

It probably does. But I think that if someone doesn't do something, it will only get worse. So it may be flawed, but far less than the current system.

You have to understand Politicians have to get the votes, and to fix that you'd have to fix our legal system. Such as instead of having a President campaigning for 3 of their 4 year 1st terms, having them get shit done. But thats another topic.

Believe me I know it's about politics and not about well being of the people. Absolutely agree with you there.

I don't suggest continuing the present course, I'd say it needs fixing, but that only takes time. And from your point of view its time we don't have.

The current system has had "time". They've had decades worth of time. The only time left is for real change. Change that makes sense. Not political strategy change.

Let me ask you: What's going to happen when SS goes bankrupt? What then? Will the gov't simply let us keep our money? Will still keep taking it? This is why changes need to happen now rather than later because there may not be a program later. I sincerely doubt that bankruptcy will automatically mean the seize and decist of collections. If it did, then I would say let it go bankrupt.

Well I'm too lazy to get deep into this arguement, I just wanted o'boy to know that not all of IA sided with Jaime or you on this. (nothing personal, honest), And that I enjoyed reading this debate. I'm honestly considering printing sections of this out (minus the bullshit) and taking it to my Current Issues class and discussing it with them.

I'b be curious to see what young people in college would think about this.

Fact of the matter is, the bill isn't gonna pass. Period. And anyone who doubts me can put $$$ down on the table (but not alot, cuz i'm poor). I'll put $30 on the table saying the bill will not pass.

Hmmm, I'm tempted to take that bet......