Split Fulton County?

[bigdare23]

HEY JAMIMECBR900 sorry for responding so late!

The bad attitude is not towards society, it is towards leeches. If you don't pay, you don't play. If it were more like that, we would have TONS more in the game. As it is, we are growing dependancy rather than independence. Which is better in your book?

You say your attitude is toward the leeches, but my thing is why punish all for the actions of few? Yeah, there's will always be those "leeches" what about the people that are trying? FUCK THEM TOO, right?

Actually this "problem" is created when people base their whole life around what the "gov't" is going to "do" for them and manage it accordingly. When the gov't doesn't give them what they fell entitled to, then they complain.....ala biting the hand that feeds you. What is it that you do to a dog that does that????

I feel you on this, but answer this question for me. Which is better to you?
The minority (aka leeches) benefiting because of the majority (aka people trying to the support themselves, but need help), or the majority being punished because of the minority (if you dont understand it I will re-word).

There's nothing wrong with it if it is VOLUNTARY. When it's taken from you forcebly it gets a little annoying. If I GIVE you something and you COMPLAIN about it.......what am I supposed to do? Keep giving or give to someone else?

Dont forget it's taken forcefully from everyone. Just think about those people who are just barely making it, that still got to pay taxes too. When u make minimium wage taxes hurt alot more than when you make $100k+.

Then, If everyone stays in the "same" county, then the money should be divided "equally". If there's 200 schools in the county then the money going toward the schools should be divided by 200. I would COMPLAIN too if a few schools were getting more money than others (just using education as an example).

The tax burden of someone that makes $20k/yr is far less than $5k. Look up the tax brackets and see where $20K lies. It's not 25%. It's not even 10% realistically because how many "services" is that $20K/yr person USING??? I'd be willing to bet plenty more than the few pennies he/she is paying INTO the same system he/she is draining out the other end. This is why SS is going bankrupt and this is why the majority of social services are following that example. Pay out more than you are taking in, and even a short bus rider can tell you that will eventually bleed you dry.

LOL, I know that (I have a B.S in Mathematics). I was just using that as a comparsion for those that were complaining that the tax rate should be the same.

I promise you that if they work, then they are paying into SS. You cant get away from paying into that! I been paying to into SS since I was 15. Trust me, if u work u will pay more into SS then what you get back! (Shit you cant get it until you are like 65, and most people die before they reach that age) Yeah some pay more than others. What? You want the person who get paid more to pay the same amount into SS as the person who gets minimum wage? Then we might as well not have SS then. That's selfish to me since more than likely by the age the richer person retires he/she wont need to depend on SS anyways. On there other hand, the person who struggled throughout life wont have a savings to back them up. Why not put money into the pot, so everyone can benefit farther down the road.

Why is that person making only $20k? Start there as the first step.

1. Easy, they stayed in the hood, where the school wasnt getting the funding like it should of.
2. They had to drop out of school to help take care of the family.
3. They cant afford college
4. They was never told about the opportunities that were out there
5. They was told about the opportunities, but didnt have the resources to get them
6. Slipped up and had a child early (cant blame people for mistakes)

And the list could go on forever...................... but I'm stopping there because the basis is still education. It's like a virus, it must be prevented. If it isnt, it will continue to grow (and wont stop), but how can you prevent something that was already there before you was born. It's hard to break a chain. Some succeed, but most fail. With help, the failure rate will decrease!!!!

Wrong. There are far MORE that abuse it, hence there is problems with funding. There are plenty of people that get paid NOT to work. They make MORE from public assistance if they have no job at all than if they had a job and only received PARTIAL benefits.

Provide it then! We should meet up and goto some shelters and different government agencies (such as DFACS) together. I bet I can prove my side

I know of several people, first hand, that receive "benefits" for being disabled when they are perfectly fine to go to work. They work alright, for cash. So they get both hand out and money for working. Since they pay NO TAXES on either, then they technically make more than plenty of others that do work. I know several others that their CHILDREN receive SSI for a bunch of "ailments", yet their parents never paid a dime INTO SSI. How's that work again? Yet, my grandfather worked for over 50 yrs...ran his own business....supported his family......retired.....passed away 2 yrs later from cancer....and now you know how much my grandmother gets from SSI????? $49/mo. Yep, $49, and that's after this year's "increase" . Why? Because she has a PENSION she worked for and EARNED after 30 yrs teaching snotty nosed kids from toddlers to teenagers. So she gets PENALIZED because she planned ahead. My grandfather PAID THOUSANDS INTO SS, yet he nor my grandmother will EVER get even a fraction of a fraction of that. Yet children of non paying parents GET sometimes thousands of dollars MONTHLY.......

Don't talk to me about UNFAIR. I KNOW unfair.

Like you said you know people that are beating the system, yet you do nothing about it, but want to complain. There's your tax paying dollars right there! If you was so worry about it you wouldn't be bitching about it on IA when you know people who are wasting your tax dollars. Report there asses and bam that money could be going to some needy family!

As for your grandparents, honestly with your grandmother pension, do she need SS? If so, I would be mad too, since its there to "help," but if its' more than enough to take care of her and her bills whats the point. Oh, I see just because it there. It could be going to someone who needs it more (I dont want bad blood between us, so this wasnt meant to disrespect your grandparents in anyway).

Last, how can you punish the children for nothing they have done!!! So because there parents arent doing right, they cant eat, have a roof over their head, decent clothes to wear????? Thats just damn wrong!

That's great, but it is VOLUNTARY and out of your own free will, right??? Would you feel the same way if it was TAKEN from you, and then you saw people squandering it??? Come talk to me after you've been EARNING that 6 figure salary. You will see things differently when it hits YOUR pocket directly.

i know its voluntary (wouldnt the world be better if everyone had some of my characteristics LOL). Honestly, taxes wouldnt matter if I saw what my money was going to. I'm not selfish, I want others to come up with me, not be held down because of me! And when I do make 6 figures my ideas wont chance, promise ya! I turned down a job making $80k in DC (right when I graduated in May 2006), to contiune my education (which is very important to me) so money isn't really that important to me. Yes, I want nice things, but I know if I do good deeds, I will get what I deserve!

And Last I already feelin the wrath of the government tax (I work for the Department of Interior) and that hasnt change my opinion! It's was good debating with ya!!! You can respond back but I'm done with this for now.