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[b16EG-HaTcH]

Mornin ppl

[Just_CHill]

Good morning! Time for some fukkin class! Yes! Lol.

[Axon360]

F F F F F F FUUUUGIN BORED...werk is teh fun.

[Axon360]

[Bbat017]

TBI = very very simple Fuel Injection,it is basicly a computer controlled carburetor...but is still in the Fuel Injection family.

We are talking bout ITB's on a honda not TBI like on your maro its an argument that me,Travis and Ricky Bobby have been having for a while now

[ACCORDPRIDE]

We are talking bout ITB's on a honda not TBI like on your maro its an argument that me,Travis and Ricky Bobby have been having for a while now

it doesnt matter itb's or tbi its still COMPUTER controlled fuel injection

not electronic where it just reads pos/neg pulses

[Bbat017]

I was just clearing the argument up to Mullet Man that we always have at the shop with ricky booby

[OldsTech]

Ook I trying to understand now. Whats the disagreement. Fuel Injection is Fuel Injection. If it has a Injection then it is FI. A Carb is a Carb.

ITB FI EFI TBI MPFI TPI all types of Fuel Injection and there are probably a million more. A computer is not needed for Fuel injection. Heck All diesel engines are fuel injection. Just Mechanically driven off the engine. I know this isn't my arguement. But it seems there is some confusion.

[OldsTech]

it doesnt matter itb's or tbi its still COMPUTER controlled fuel injection

not electronic where it just reads pos/neg pulses

Maybe its cuz I don't know this system (ITB) But I don't understand this post.

EDIT: ok I read up on ITB injection. Im pretty familar with this system. And still don't understand. TBI and ITB is the same concept

[OldsTech]

TBI = very very simple Fuel Injection,it is basicly a computer controlled carburetor...but is still in the Fuel Injection family.

WRONG!!!! It can be disguised like a carb under the hood with everything installed. But the operation of this is NOTHING like a Carb.The only thing they have in common is they put fuel in almost the same location. And a CCC carb is nothing but a emission Carb. Nothing like fuel injection.

A computer-controlled carburetor uses a solenoid- operated valve to respond to commands from the microcomputer (electronic control unit). The system uses various sensors to send information to the computer that calculates how rich or lean to set the carburetor air-fuel mixture.

OXYGEN SENSOR
TEMPERATURE SENSOR
MANIFOLD PRESSURE SENSOR (MAP)
ELECTROMECHANICAL CARBURE- TOR
MIXTURE CONTROL SOLENOID.

[OldsTech]

I was just clearing the argument up to Mullet Man that we always have at the shop with ricky booby

Ok, I went back and read. I understand now. LOL.. Sorry I like this kind of stuff

[HypnoToad]

WRONG!!!! It can be disguised like a carb under the hood with everything installed. But the operation of this is NOTHING like a Carb.The only thing they have in common is they put fuel in almost the same location. And a CCC carb is nothing but a emission Carb. Nothing like fuel injection.

A computer-controlled carburetor uses a solenoid- operated valve to respond to commands from the microcomputer (electronic control unit). The system uses various sensors to send information to the computer that calculates how rich or lean to set the carburetor air-fuel mixture.

OXYGEN SENSOR
TEMPERATURE SENSOR
MANIFOLD PRESSURE SENSOR (MAP)
ELECTROMECHANICAL CARBURE- TOR
MIXTURE CONTROL SOLENOID.

sorry,thats bascily wat i ment...that fuel is injected the same,and also at low PSI,its also very simple like a carb.

[Motivation]

There is a lot of that technical shit being said in here... wtf?

[OldsTech]

sorry,thats bascily wat i ment...that fuel is injected the same,and also at low PSI,its also very simple like a carb.

They compare it to a carb but the how the component operations NOTHING like a carb. Just the function is the same.

On a carb all you need is Vacuum and fuel and properly set screws.

On a TBI system, you need MAP, ECU, High Fuel Pressure, O2 sensor, and I sure I forgot something.. A very good system.. 100 times better then carb.


Throttle-body injection (called TBI by General Motors and Central Fuel Injection (CFI) by Ford) or single-point injection was introduced in the 1940s in large aircraft engines, (then called the pressure carburetor) and in the 1980s in the automotive world. The TBI system injects fuel at the throttle body (the same location where a carburetor introduced fuel). The induction mixture passes through the intake runners like a carburetor system, and is thus labelled a "wet manifold system". The justification for the TBI/CFI phase was low cost. Many of the carburetor's supporting components could be reused such as the air cleaner, intake manifold, and fuel line routing. This postponed the redesign and tooling costs of these components. Most of these components were later redesigned for the next phase of fuel injection's evolution, which is individual port injection, commonly known as MPFI or "multi-point fuel injection". TBI was used extensively on American-made passenger cars and light trucks in the 1980 to 1995 timeframe and some transition-engined European cars throughout the early and mid 1990s.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

bwahahahaha michael is owning mothafukka's w/ his mechanical knowledge....im getting a good laugh off of everything he has posted proving some of you wrong.

[HypnoToad]

They compare it to a carb but the how the component operations NOTHING like a carb. Just the function is the same.

On a carb all you need is Vacuum and fuel and properly set screws.

On a TBI system, you need MAP, ECU, High Fuel Pressure, O2 sensor, and I sure I forgot something.. A very good system.. 100 times better then carb.


Throttle-body injection (called TBI by General Motors and Central Fuel Injection (CFI) by Ford) or single-point injection was introduced in the 1940s in large aircraft engines, (then called the pressure carburetor) and in the 1980s in the automotive world. The TBI system injects fuel at the throttle body (the same location where a carburetor introduced fuel). The induction mixture passes through the intake runners like a carburetor system, and is thus labelled a "wet manifold system". The justification for the TBI/CFI phase was low cost. Many of the carburetor's supporting components could be reused such as the air cleaner, intake manifold, and fuel line routing. This postponed the redesign and tooling costs of these components. Most of these components were later redesigned for the next phase of fuel injection's evolution, which is individual port injection, commonly known as MPFI or "multi-point fuel injection". TBI was used extensively on American-made passenger cars and light trucks in the 1980 to 1995 timeframe and some transition-engined European cars throughout the early and mid 1990s.

yea i read that too,and thats bascily what i was saying,and yes it is a good system

[OldsTech]

Well I drop my stuff off at the paint shop today. I want tell how much he is charging me (not in a good way) But It is there being painted. Everything else just needs to be Powder coat. And Im waiting on a quote from my PC guy now. Then after that I need tires, insurance, chain and sprocket, and little stuff. And she is ready to go

OOO yeah, I signed up for another 6 yrs today. I took the 15,000 dollar re-enlistment bonus. I was goin to join the Air guard. But I could never get intouch with them. And after today the bonus drops to 5,000 dollars so I took the money. But I won't get it till my ETS is up

[ACCORDPRIDE]

i love all the research and explanations behind all of that - wish i wasnt so lazy and would have done that myself so we didnt have to have this discussion- i was just trying to enlighten ricky bobby of the differences between the ITB setup and a carb setup- he stated that ITBs which come on most bikes that are FI and can be adapted to fit hondas are more like little carbs and not a form of FI- i was just trying to explain the difference to him- i didnt want to get into the tbi system but for all intensive purposes it is FI not carb

[ACCORDPRIDE]

Maybe its cuz I don't know this system (ITB) But I don't understand this post.

EDIT: ok I read up on ITB injection. Im pretty familar with this system. And still don't understand. TBI and ITB is the same concept

sorry post was confusing but that is what i meant
guess it wasnt that clear cause i was explaining it as i was talking to ricky bobby in person and i was explaining our convo

[Just_CHill]

Well I drop my stuff off at the paint shop today. I want tell how much he is charging me (not in a good way) But It is there being painted. Everything else just needs to be Powder coat. And Im waiting on a quote from my PC guy now. Then after that I need tires, insurance, chain and sprocket, and little stuff. And she is ready to go

OOO yeah, I signed up for another 6 yrs today. I took the 15,000 dollar re-enlistment bonus. I was goin to join the Air guard. But I could never get intouch with them. And after today the bonus drops to 5,000 dollars so I took the money. But I won't get it till my ETS is up

Good times man. Like I said, hope things work out for you man!

[b16EG-HaTcH]

your welcome jake for your second green bar.

[OldsTech]

i love all the research and explanations behind all of that - wish i wasnt so lazy and would have done that myself so we didnt have to have this discussion- i was just trying to enlighten ricky bobby of the differences between the ITB setup and a carb setup- he stated that ITBs which come on most bikes that are FI and can be adapted to fit hondas are more like little carbs and not a form of FI- i was just trying to explain the difference to him- i didnt want to get into the tbi system but for all intensive purposes it is FI not carb

Its ok... Im like that sometimes too. I knew if I posted up. I need facts tho. Or I shouldn't post at all....

Really, I was goin to use bikes has an example but I didn't want to twist the discussion up more. My 2005 Suzuki Katana 600 is carb. Which is good and bad. Depending on how skill you are. And patience. Now since we are on the topic. You can adapted a carb engine to FI. It is very easy. Now you can't convert Carb to FI.

But making original carb Inline 4 motorcycle to FI is very easy. You just got to know your resources. Now I know alittle about you travis. And I heard you are pretty knowlegdable. So did I read the post right or not. Becuz you know as good has I do. You can convert a bike to FI has easy has you can a car.

EDIT: rereading your post. When you say Honda your talking about motorcycles... Or Car

[ACCORDPRIDE]

car



you can take a set of throttle bodies off a FI bike (not sure wat bike it is but they make a kit for it) and adapt them to fit on the more popular honda motors which will help on a all motor car (and turbo to a lesser extent)

i didnt mean that you cant convert one way or the other - even though i believe you can go both ways as far as the converting goes (carb to FI being alot of work i wouldnt wanna go through) but i wasnt trying to say you could convert either way

[p3tey2]

wats up yah..i always feel left out in this section lol

[cactusEG]

Whats good ppl ?

[Grimm Reeper]

wats up yah..i always feel left out in this section lol

I wonder why lol

Whats good ppl ?

Not too much Jose, how about you?

[DSGMach1]

I wonder why lol




Not too much Jose, how about you?

I think you forgot something again...

I'll help get you started.......nnnnnnnn........nnnnnnn

[b16EG-HaTcH]

l0li had to read it like 5 time to figure out what you were talking about

[b16EG-HaTcH]

wats up yah..i always feel left out in this section lol

here's an idea.....have more content in your posts than "whats up" or "how's it goin" or "whats hananin"

EDIT: im just saying join in the conversation, and dont just leave it at whats up.

[Grimm Reeper]

Ok Lee...... no homo

[allmotorX]

brb ftw!!!

[b16EG-HaTcH]

brb ftw!!!

QFT

[Grimm Reeper]

brb ftw!!!

Would you look at this guy

[DSGMach1]

Ok Lee...... no homo

Just watching out for ya.
You don't want any of those ASAP people thinking BRB is pro homo

[allmotorX]

Would you look at this guy

just promoting

[OldsTech]

car



you can take a set of throttle bodies off a FI bike (not sure wat bike it is but they make a kit for it) and adapt them to fit on the more popular honda motors which will help on a all motor car (and turbo to a lesser extent)

i didnt mean that you cant convert one way or the other - even though i believe you can go both ways as far as the converting goes (carb to FI being alot of work i wouldnt wanna go through) but i wasnt trying to say you could convert either way

Yeah... After reading your post a few times. I started figuring thats what you was talking about.

Wow, I never thought of using a bike FI on a car. But I guess it would make sense. Something like a ZX-14 or Hayabusa. I mean that is 1.4L and 1.3L so it ain't far off in cubes. Man I bet thats a pain in the tuning dept.

Yeah there is a guy on my Katana forum who converted his Katana to FI. It took a good 4 months from start to finish. Most of it trail and error. Still havn't got all the bugs out.

[b16EG-HaTcH]

ITB's FTW this is what he is talking about michael (visual aid.b/c i saw u said u figured it out)
they make an adapter plate for GSXR 1000 and 1300 TB's

[Grimm Reeper]

ITB's FTW this is what he is talking about michael (visual aid.b/c i saw u said u figured it out)
they make an adapter plate for GSXR 1000 and 1300 TB's

Jizz n my pants


That's one of the upgrades I look for in the near but oh so distant future

[allmotorX]

Jizz n my pants


That's one of the upgrades I look for in the near but oh so distant future

x2 but not so distant

[Grimm Reeper]

just promoting

preciate it homie


I got to get up in a few hours so I'll holla at y'all lataz [emphasis on the Z]

I'm cool and I'm out