Automatic trannies. what do you think?

[Bruce Leroy]

I take it you've never modded or raced an auto .....

You've got shift kits, manual valve bodies, reverse manual valve bodies, ratchet shifters, upgraded clutch packs, changeable lockup for your TCC.

If you have torque, having an auto is pretty decent.

Especially for drag racing, you can run a nice trans brake, and a big fat turbo, then spool the hell out of it off the line. Also, while you are rolling, you don't lose any boost during shifts.

I won't say all, but many a manual car have fallen to my automatic volvo due to its superior launch off the line (with a few tweaks done to it of course).

Autos suck on most small displacement 4cyl cars because they do not have the low end torque to spin up the torque converter as said earlier. Also, due to the fact that they are fwd, the main benefit of being able to spool the turbo off the line is lost because most of your hard launch will erupt into tire smoke. Also, the packaging of a fwd car makes it harder to cool an auto and thus, they hold less power.

However, if your experience is simply limited to fwd econoboxes, don't go bashing automatics until you've driven a car with one that is properly, or at least has had an attempt at having an auto that is properly set up.


OH and you can drift with an automatic.
www.bubbadrift.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chv6rF4cHuc

I never bashed autos. All i was implying was that driving an auto takes less skill than driving a stick.

[man]

what u call the veyron?

or SLR Mclaren.

thiers no clutch pedal,and it shifts for u..........sounds like a automatic

Sorry, but the Veyron's transmission is not an automatic. It will shift for you only when you tell it to, otherwise it is a 7-speed DSG manual.

[iEvo]

autotragics r gay

[OneSlow5pt0]

Sorry, but the Veyron's transmission is not an automatic. It will shift for you only when you tell it to, otherwise it is a 7-speed DSG manual.

"Putting this power to the ground is a dual-clutch DSG computer-controlled manual transmission with 7 gear ratios via shifter paddles behind the steering wheel boasting an 8 ms shift time. The Veyron can be driven by full automatic transmission. The Veyron also features full-time all-wheel drive based on the Haldex system. It uses special Michelin run-flat tires designed specifically for the Veyron to accommodate the vehicle's top speed.

Curb weight is estimated at 1890 kg (4,160lb). This gives the car a power to weight ratio of 529 bhp/tonne, which is great for this type of car."


like all the high end BMW and Benz

automatic with a manual mode

or a SMT,like the MR2 Spyder has....but the MR2-S doesnt have a auto mode

[man]

is a dual-clutch DSG computer-controlled manual transmission with 7 gear ratios

You seem to have missed this part.

[OneSlow5pt0]

is a dual-clutch DSG computer-controlled manual transmission with 7 gear ratios

You seem to have missed this part.

but the computer shifts for u....just like BMWs have SMTs..they have auto mode,like the veyron has.

but u an shift it yourdelf if u want,but it would be slower

[93H22ACX]

for those who think you just press the gas and go....try launching it at 30 or so psi with nitrous and control the car lol...

that's like saying just press the gas and shift gears

i myself didnt really like autos either...but 26psi of boost on my supra changed my mind on autos.

at times i want to convert it...but then i don't either.... just depends on the mood.

and yes...manual FTW if its a civic / integra lol.

[Tinton]

I hate autos, personally. I just sold my (hope to be) last auto car, and unless I lose a leg or an arm I'm not going to be switching to autos anytime soon. All the negatives for driving stick don't exist if you actually know how to DRIVE a manual. If you're having trouble in traffic, try to not ride the person's ass in front of you. If you drive a manual like you'd drive an auto, yes you'll have problems. I've been driving stick every day for the past 2 years, in traffic too, and I haven't had a problem. In traffic I almost never have to clutch in, because I'll just move along idling in 1st or 2nd gear leaving a cushion in front of me so I never have to stop.

Who the hell dragraces here anyways? I drive a domestic but I hate dragracing, I don't see a point to it. Oh yeah, look at you, you built a 600 hp car and you're getting down into the 11's and 10's at the track! If you have enough money you can get any car to run speeds like that. I find a lot more joy in just driving down a twisty road with a manual transmission. In fact, if I were ever to modify a car (and I hopefully will soon) I'll probably cap the HP at around 350-400 just so it'll still be easy to handle on a road with tight corners.

[man]

for those who think you just press the gas and go....try launching it at 30 or so psi with nitrous and control the car lol...

that's like saying just press the gas and shift gears

i myself didnt really like autos either...but 26psi of boost on my supra changed my mind on autos.

at times i want to convert it...but then i don't either.... just depends on the mood.

and yes...manual FTW if its a civic / integra lol.

Not a fan of straight line racing, so manual ftw in any performance oriented car.

[93H22ACX]

well i know i drag race. but yes anyone can build a high hp car but to run it is a different story. so you are saying anyone with 500-600whp car can get in and run 10's? i don't think so. that's like saying anyone can drift because they slid their car around the corner...or anyone can autox cause they went around a turn.


as far as manual tranny for dd in traffic goes... i dont see any problems with it..it just gets old and tiring when you're stuck in atlanta traffic...especially with a twin or triple disk clutch.

straight line, curves, drifts... its in preferences... i wouldnt say just because you like drag or dift one more than the other that the one you dislike sucks....

it's just a matter of preference in auto or manual transmission. I enjoy both but
i wouldnt just say all auto's suck...i use to think that way until i test drove one and it made buy one...although at times i do want a manual transmissiom car.

[NevrNufTorq]

well i know i drag race. but yes anyone can build a high hp car but to run it is a different story. so you are saying anyone with 500-600whp car can get in and run 10's? i don't think so. that's like saying anyone can drift because they slid their car around the corner...or anyone can autox cause they went around a turn.

as far as manual tranny for dd in traffic goes... i dont see any problems with it..it just gets old and tiring when you're stuck in atlanta traffic...especially with a twin or triple disk clutch.

straight line, curves, drifts... its in preferences...

it's just a matter of preference in auto or manual transmission. I enjoy both but
i wouldnt just say all auto's suck...i use to think that way until i test drove one and it made buy one...although at times i do want a manual transmissiom car.

this man speaketh the truth whatup bro?!?

[93H22ACX]

this man speaketh the truth whatup bro?!?

sup man. anything new to the ride?

[NevrNufTorq]

sup man. anything new to the ride?

brand new motor goin in next week!! had a lil accident with the nitrous but ya live and ya learn!! was on my way to my fastest pass ever though. ran a 6.8x@111 in the 1/8th then blew at the 1000'. coasted to a 10.9!! that was my low 10! motor was worth the 6.8 though!

[93H22ACX]

brand new motor goin in next week!! had a lil accident with the nitrous but ya live and ya learn!! was on my way to my fastest pass ever though. ran a 6.8x@111 in the 1/8th then blew at the 1000'. coasted to a 10.9!! that was my low 10! motor was worth the 6.8 though!

damn...well, atleast you're getting a new one back in... both motors stock?

[NevrNufTorq]

nope, both built. new one, full port job, crower 280 cams, springs, retainers, je pistons, eagle rods, arp's, clevite bearings, that's about it. should be good for a g if i need it. we'll see. never got all out of my 750 so we'll start there and work up again. goin to showdown. guess i'll be runiing for 2nd against everyone else if clark brings his A game with his new power!

[93H22ACX]

nope, both built. new one, full port job, crower 280 cams, springs, retainers, je pistons, eagle rods, arp's, clevite bearings, that's about it. should be good for a g if i need it. we'll see. never got all out of my 750 so we'll start there and work up again. goin to showdown. guess i'll be runiing for 2nd against everyone else if clark brings his A game with his new power!

i'm sure you'll do fine. gl

btw...who did you get your TH400 kit from...AAP or SP?

[NevrNufTorq]

AAP! chris and jemel have got it down pat. all the stuff for the speedo to work and the ratchet shifter with shortened handles so it still looks like a 6 speed to the naked eye!! at least til i put on my shift knob with the button for the trans brake!!! best thing in the world!!! so glad i let dave install and talk me into that one!

[Crazy Asian]

Lots of cars now a days are auto or have this weird auto.