the thing is... It is going to be my DD, but I have 3 other cars as well, so if needed I can drive something else if I have to work on one of the cars. I would rather not put any miles on my other much nicer cars. I drive them on the weekend and sometimes to work. I dont HAVE to have a RWD, but it would be nice. $8000 is my limit because thats what I want to spend. sometimes whether you want to or not, you have to spend more. I dont have a real spending limit, But I dont want to waste $20k on a car that will only be worth $5k in the end... when I said I dont want a hatchback, I meant no true HB's... ex golf, civic HB, etc... I dont consider 240's and integra's and shit like that to be a "hatch". I know they have a hatchback rear door, but when you hear "hatchback" you think golf or civic HB. Anyways thanks for the suggestions!