Best Boosted B-series?

[SPOOLIN]

no.

[B16a2 Civic]

IN B4 RELOCK OR DELETE. LOL!!!!!!!

this will stay open as long as no shop bashing or severe personal attacks are made.

but i am partial to a certain b series motor LOL.

[RiceBoy]

Yeah NO SHOP Bashing...However I am entitled to promote Ed Senf can't I?

[B18c1Turboed]

WHy can all these cars make over 300 ON STOCK BLOCKS!!


B18C, LS/VTEC:
1. crx=si 605hp, 364tq stock B18C1 TO4R at 26psi Crome-pro with traktek 110
2. stOOpid tuned 523whp on 22psi and a 50 on C16. All stock B18C1 (11.00 @ 133)
3. C squared motorsports 518whp 324tq 20lbs on C16 and PT67
4. fuccarlos 508whp 361tq @17psi on c-16 (10.40@136 1.5 60')
5. marco B18C1/B16 head 480whp @ 23/24 psi on C16 tuned by jason hunt
6. GodFather of Boost 470 on c16 @20-21
7. ngogsr 462.52 fwhp 320.87 tq 23psi c 16
8. cyph3r 454whp 317tq sc61
9. carchitect 424whp 271tq Stock B18C5. Precision SC63
10. philipwight 400whp 260tq on stock gsr on pump gas (11.3@131)


B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)
2. redline130 393 whp 261 ftlbs, C16 (11.65 @ 125mph)
3. marques4130 350 whp sunoco 112 best (11.8 @ 119 @ 4200 ft)
4. 98gsrTEG 344whp@1 bar on pump gas
5. Black SI 344whp on a stock b16 @14psi
6. 99B16Si 333whp/221wtq SAE at 13psi SC61
7. integlspwr2k 330whp on a stock head stock block
8. Bryson 329whp 210tq 13psi SC61 on 91
9. G"UNIT 329whp 207tq @12psi on a sc61 on 93 octane
10. s2kkk (Jeff Evans tuned) 325whp/215tq LS:
1. Rico 340whp 270tq 1.7 bar on a stock LS
2. JDMH22HATCH 340/270 15lbs stock LS
3. adseguy 328whp 269trq 16PSI on 93 octane. T3/T4e .63/.60 57 trim
4. Jeff Evans tuned 320whp/290tq
5. M.A.R.C 315whp/280wtq @ 15psi on 93oct
6. efgarage 308whp 287wtq 15psi 91 oct,tuned with neptune
7. gpomp 308 whp, 255 wtq 94 octane
8. ramrod 307 whp, 247tq Crome pro
9. civicflnum1 303.4whp and 269.4wtq @ 14psi t3/t04e 60 trim 93 octane
10. sean 302whp/280tq @ 16psi sc61 on sunoco 94 octane (11.8@116)

[B16a2 Civic]

yeah, aint nothin wrong with promoting good work

[BTEC]

I have yet to see you make a valid point. Point of you post? The point of mine is 230hp is sad for a turbo setup! That was acceptable maybe in the late 90's. But given advances in tuning and equipment, people can reliably push the envelope and hit 300+, without problems. Im done posting, Ive proved my point, hopefully the people reading will realize the point me and others are trying to prove.

THE POINT OF MY POST WAS TO TELL YOU STFU. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

BUT SERIOUSLY, I DNT UNDERSTAND Y YAWL BITCH AT EACHOTHER FOR HRS AND GO TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT AND START GETTING PERSONAL BC SOMEBODY DNT TAKE UR WRD FOR SOMETHING OR HAVENT HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCES THAT U HAVE. DO U THINK JUST BC U DOG THEM OUT THEYLL BE LIKE OK UR RIGHT?

230 WHP IS NOT BAD FOR A SIMPLE TURBO SETUP. THE THING THAT WOULD MAKE IT SAD IS IF U SPEND 8 GRAND AND ONLY GET TO 230 WHP.

[BTEC]

WHy can all these cars make over 300 ON STOCK BLOCKS!!


B18C, LS/VTEC:
1. crx=si 605hp, 364tq stock B18C1 TO4R at 26psi Crome-pro with traktek 110
2. stOOpid tuned 523whp on 22psi and a 50 on C16. All stock B18C1 (11.00 @ 133)
3. C squared motorsports 518whp 324tq 20lbs on C16 and PT67
4. fuccarlos 508whp 361tq @17psi on c-16 (10.40@136 1.5 60')
5. marco B18C1/B16 head 480whp @ 23/24 psi on C16 tuned by jason hunt
6. GodFather of Boost 470 on c16 @20-21
7. ngogsr 462.52 fwhp 320.87 tq 23psi c 16
8. cyph3r 454whp 317tq sc61
9. carchitect 424whp 271tq Stock B18C5. Precision SC63
10. philipwight 400whp 260tq on stock gsr on pump gas (11.3@131)


B16:
1. Randys 630whp and 390tq on 118. (10.97@131)
2. redline130 393 whp 261 ftlbs, C16 (11.65 @ 125mph)
3. marques4130 350 whp sunoco 112 best (11.8 @ 119 @ 4200 ft)
4. 98gsrTEG 344whp@1 bar on pump gas
5. Black SI 344whp on a stock b16 @14psi
6. 99B16Si 333whp/221wtq SAE at 13psi SC61
7. integlspwr2k 330whp on a stock head stock block
8. Bryson 329whp 210tq 13psi SC61 on 91
9. G"UNIT 329whp 207tq @12psi on a sc61 on 93 octane
10. s2kkk (Jeff Evans tuned) 325whp/215tq LS:
1. Rico 340whp 270tq 1.7 bar on a stock LS
2. JDMH22HATCH 340/270 15lbs stock LS
3. adseguy 328whp 269trq 16PSI on 93 octane. T3/T4e .63/.60 57 trim
4. Jeff Evans tuned 320whp/290tq
5. M.A.R.C 315whp/280wtq @ 15psi on 93oct
6. efgarage 308whp 287wtq 15psi 91 oct,tuned with neptune
7. gpomp 308 whp, 255 wtq 94 octane
8. ramrod 307 whp, 247tq Crome pro
9. civicflnum1 303.4whp and 269.4wtq @ 14psi t3/t04e 60 trim 93 octane
10. sean 302whp/280tq @ 16psi sc61 on sunoco 94 octane (11.8@116)

G-UNIT RACING? OH SHIT!!!

[B16a2 Civic]

50 cent in tha house....

[B18c1Turboed]

BUT SERIOUSLY, I DNT UNDERSTAND Y YAWL BITCH AT EACHOTHER FOR HRS AND GO TOTALLY OFF SUBJECT AND START GETTING PERSONAL BC SOMEBODY DNT TAKE UR WRD FOR SOMETHING OR HAVENT HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCES THAT U HAVE. DO U THINK JUST BC U DOG THEM OUT THEYLL BE LIKE OK UR RIGHT?

NOpe, the point is we have done it and proven it!! So obviously we know what we talking about also, i can see from a shop stand point not wanting to blow a motor up, but from are point its possible to make over 300hp on a stock block. Needless to say we dont own any shops and are names arent on the line, BUt in that same hand we know what we talking about when someone says you cant do it it wont be reliable,who cares!! Honestly going turbo aint reliable also so do you recommend it to a cuistomer or not. I know a certain person had a bad ass b16 fully bult and tuned blew it up becasue of bad gas.So thoose are chances you take!!

[Formally...]

I don't care. Thanks.

[B18c1Turboed]

cant go by everything you read

Thats the diffrence!!! WE DONT!! we do it, Peter has made better than any one on a stock block, so has Trinh, so has Shawn so have I.
So we dont go by what we read we go by what we know and have expirenced!!

I know trinh was the 1st in GA with over 300hp when everyone said it cant be done, this was 6 years ago man

[Formally...]

I don't care. Thanks.

[BTEC]

NOpe, the point is we have done it and proven it!! So obviously we know what we talking about also, i can see from a shop stand point not wanting to blow a motor up, but from are point its possible to make over 300hp on a stock block. Needless to say we dont own any shops and are names arent on the line, BUt in that same hand we know what we talking about when someone says you cant do it it wont be reliable,who cares!! Honestly going turbo aint reliable also so do you recommend it to a cuistomer or not. I know a certain person had a bad ass b16 fully bult and tuned blew it up becasue of bad gas.So thoose are chances you take!!

NO DOUBT. I DIDNT SEE MIKE SAY U CANT MAKE THAT KINDA POWER, HE SAID HE DNT RECCOMEND IT.

WHEN U SAY STOCK BLOCK DO U MEAN RODS AND PISTONS ARE STOCK OR STOCK SLEEVES. I WOULD THINK SLEEVES BUT I JUST WAN TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE.

[B18c1Turboed]

And Charles no offense too you but thats why we are the home of

the
1st 300HP car in GA
1st 400HP car in Ga
1st 500HP car in Ga
1st 600HP car in GA
1st 700hp car in Ga
1st 800HP car in Ga

Because we dont read about it,we DO IT!!

[Formally...]

I don't care. Thanks.

[B18c1Turboed]

and if you want to bring up tuning thats fine, Ed doesnt make a car any more reliable than scotty. You guys said YOURSELF that scotty tunes conservative and Ed tunes aggressive, so our CONSERVATIVE motors blow up, but your AGGRESIVE motors last so much longer? see how stupid that sounds.

I belive what MIke said is Ed tunes are ISP cars Aggresive!! What is considered aggresive? you see trinhs chart and his A/F how is that aggresive?

So just because we can put down high HP we must be tuning are cars aggresive?

[Shawn]

Advancements in what?

theres only 2 things that matter in tuning, A/F ratio an timing. everything else is dependant on how the motor was built or how healthy it is.

equipment, was hondata around back then? or sorry, your guys favorite, crome, uberdata? NOPE but we have had ADVANCEMENTS and there are more tuning programs, and you dont have to run a full standalone on a honda just to make 500hp and you dont have to run a FMU for a 200hp setup. Nice try, but back then you were prolly tuning your carb on your Chevy

[B18c1Turboed]

I dont mind Ed, he makes good power on ISPs cars an a few others i have seen. But i stand behind scotty, otherwose i wouldnt have him here tuning for us so maybe im biased. To say that ED is aggresive is ludicrous, hes aggressibve on ISPs cars, maybe, but the average joe, no way in hell, hes as conservative as they come.

Just so you can read what MIke said

I think when it comes to Tuning ,some people on here are biased.I understand he works or contracts for you guys but that dont make someone else less of a tuner.

Especially since Ed has been tunning cars for 15 years and attentds all the classes to get better at tuning everyday!!

[Shawn]

And Charles no offense too you but thats why we are the home of

the
1st 300HP car in GA
1st 400HP car in Ga
1st 500HP car in Ga
1st 600HP car in GA
1st 700hp car in Ga
1st 800HP car in Ga

Because we dont read about it,we DO IT!!

Quoted for the truth! haha

[BTEC]

Just so you can read what MIke said

I think when it comes to Tuning ,some people on here are biased.I understand he works or contracts for you guys but that dont make someone else less of a tuner.

Especially since Ed has been tunning cars for 15 years and attentds all the classes to get better at tuning everyday!!

ED IS THE MAN AND HAS BEEN FOR YEARS IN MY BOOK SINCE ENGINEERED PERFORMANCE. WITH THAT KINDA EXPERIENCE U SHOULD EXPECT MORE HORSEPOWER AND BETTER PERFORMANCE THAN U WOULD FROM A ROOKIE.

[SPOOLIN]

And Charles no offense too you but thats why we are the home of

the
1st 300HP car in GA
1st 400HP car in Ga
1st 500HP car in Ga
1st 600HP car in GA
1st 700hp car in Ga
1st 800HP car in Ga

Because we dont read about it,we DO IT!!

no thats false. danny isnt the home of shit, he uses WE worse than anyone.

danny doesnt own shit for automotive business. He doesnt tune cars. HE barely races cars. BENCH RACER and a WE TALKER for ISP.



WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE

WE THE PEOPLE MOTHER FUCKER.

[KevinT707]

Cant we just all be friends, & give each other hugs? Geez

[boostedb16]

so everybody is saying dont boost a b16 and dont go to mainstream, i have heard from about 3 or 4 people the mainstream is a good place, and i have never heard of the ed guy, is chrome pro a bad program because i heard its as good as hondata. i have a b16 on 5 psi with a fmu and want to go to 8 psi and i was going to let scotty tune it with chrome pro. so is that a bad idea or not.

[BTEC]

so everybody is saying dont boost a b16 and dont go to mainstream, i have heard from about 3 or 4 people the mainstream is a good place, and i have never heard of the ed guy, is chrome pro a bad program because i heard its as good as hondata. i have a b16 on 5 psi with a fmu and want to go to 8 psi and i was going to let scotty tune it with chrome pro. so is that a bad idea or not.

ID DO IT. I USED AN HKS HEADGASKET ON MY STOCK B16 TO DROP THE COMPRESSION DWN BC I DIDNT WANT TO RISK BREAKING MY RING LANDS BC I HAVE ALSO WATCHED BOOSTED B16 BLOW UP. BUT YEAH ID DO IT.

[boostedb16]

well its already boosted and how much does cost to have a headgasket changed.

[99SI]

Damn this thread got jacked all to shit. I think everybody missed the boat on the comments Mike made. He didn't say that the high horsepower numbers are unattainable on a stock GSR or B16, because we've all seen the posts on Honda Tech and what ISP has done. No one is putting into doubt that Ed at balanced is a good tuner, but you better not be in a hurry and be willing to wait a few months to get in to see him. From Mike's perspective dealing with someone like the fellow who started this thread, when the average person that wants to daily drive a boosted Honda they do not need to be making 300+ whp. It's irrelevant what someone maxed out a GSR or B16 at. The thread originator was asking about a safe, reliable daily driver setup. If he wants to have a higher boost map for track days when he is going to be running race gas then I'm sure Scotty would be glad to make him a race gas tune. But for regular everyday driving, a safe tune at 250-270whp on a stock GSR is the most the average person needs. Everybody has seen the dumbass people that blame a shop because they fucked up their car after a big build. It's not the shops fault, as Danny has said repeatedly, reliability is not the name of the game when it comes to turbo or any other high performance. Just like my motor, I ran the shit out of it taking a stock b16 bottom end (arp rod bolts) with upgraded valvetrain and cams to 9500 everyday and I have a 110 mile commute. When it broke, I called Mike to build me another motor, not bitch because my motor locked up. Most people do not see it that way, they want something that is going to last indefinately and it's not realistic.

[SPOOLIN]

WE Myself,peter,Bee and alfonso! Im sorry your crew conist of you and josh! That can only afford to race 1 car.I mean come on he has to sell his car just too buy a truck to take YOU too the races.Wow Big team!! We have 4 trucks 4 cars and 4 trailers!! So YEA WE!!!

HAHA!~ you right i dont count on peoples car to breck down, I own a insurance company that is rapidly growing and making me BANK!!!

Bench Racer wow you have done alot of racing this year what 1 race and broke right after you qualify!! WOW!!
Why did you sit most of this year out? Building a new car?
Gee im pass that stage now,maybe ill invite you to my new vacation house sometime!!

ANd if you havent realized ISP is a racing team and belive it or not im part of that team.I may not be racing this year but i have been for the last 4 years, AT the start of the year i stated i wasnt racing this year and now im a bench racer!!
Im a bench racer that is at EVERY race helping to work on Peter,Bees and Alfonso car.Yea real bench racer here!!

What?, afford to build 1 car. If josh wanted to build a race car he would do it. but i know what you are doing danny, just tapping the bee hive to watch all of the bees get all mad. I can do the same thing. Im the one that races. As a matter of fact, if you look around at 90% of race teams, THEY ARE ONE FUCKING CAR YOU IDIOT. Josh could have built a bad ass car not to long ago but just went ahead and got rid of everything, well he does have a few things laying around if anyone is interested. josh has a truck that we use all the time, the red one im sure youve seen it that also pulls alot better then your tiny ranger might i add. He wants to sell his civic to get yet another truck that is bad ass and will pull all 4 of your trucks together in a nice little line. I decided to change my whole direction for my car so that i would have something to carry me for a good few years. I didnt see that in an EG hatch.

The NDRA, People of IA, racers in the sport, and the sport in general, DO NOT GIVE ONE FUCK ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS OR YOUR "VACATION" HOUSE in the swiss alps. I dont recall ever seeing you registered as part of the ISP team at a race in the last 2 years that you actually raced in for "real".

1 race is more than any that you can say for yourself in this years events and races. That was the second race of the year might i add, the only reason i wasnt at the first is because it was 3,000 miles away, yeah real smart to go to that one if i could. You are a bench racer if you are going to sit and do the shit like you do on here AND NOT RACE, and give excuses about why your arent that make no sense.

If you are such a big bad team like you say you are. Lets see you at the next NDRA races in the qualifying listings, any one of you because i know peters car is running and from the looks of it, alfonsos car is running. I dont know about Bees, but thats 2 out of 3-4 atleast. Theres maryland and ohio left, which are both ATLEAST 900 miles away because i know if my car was ready enough and running good, my ass would be there because thats what racing is as a team, whether you are 2 men, or 10.

now little bees, get mad run around and make your counterstatements plz.

[§treet_§peed]

a b16 pops under alot of strees while a GSR holds strong...

[josh green]

I SPRINKLE DIAMONDS ON EVERYTHING I EAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. ITS THE MOST BALLING SHIT EVA
2. IT MAKES MY DOOKIE TWINKLE.



IM RICH BIATCH!

[anothaRRR]

If you are such a big bad team like you say you are. Lets see you at the next NDRA races in the qualifying listings, any one of you because i know peters car is running and from the looks of it, alfonsos car is running. I dont know about Bees, but thats 2 out of 3-4 atleast. Theres maryland and ohio left, which are both ATLEAST 900 miles away because i know if my car was ready enough and running good, my ass would be there because thats what racing is as a team, whether you are 2 men, or 10.

And then what, just prove to you that we are running at races? WTF for, we never claimed being a "big bad team" like your stating it...

[B18c1Turboed]

[QUOTE]

What?, afford to build 1 car. If josh wanted to build a race car he would do it. but i know what you are doing danny, just tapping the bee hive to watch all of the bees get all mad. I can do the same thing. Im the one that races. As a matter of fact, if you look around at 90% of race teams, THEY ARE ONE FUCKING CAR YOU IDIOT. Josh could have built a bad ass car not to long ago but just went ahead and got rid of everything, well he does have a few things laying around if anyone is interested. josh has a truck that we use all the time, the red one im sure youve seen it that also pulls alot better then your tiny ranger might i add. He wants to sell his civic to get yet another truck that is bad ass and will pull all 4 of your trucks together in a nice little line. I decided to change my whole direction for my car so that i would have something to carry me for a good few years. I didnt see that in an EG hatch.

My little Tiny ranger gets 420 miles per tank!! So yea ill sacrifice a big truck for a little one,shoot i can afford alot more gas becasue it dont take as much.And im sorry a F350 aint going to pull four trucks!! that was a redneck comment right there,is it going to pull your mobile home around too!! haha

I dont recall ever seeing you registered as part of the ISP team at a race in the last 2 years that you actually raced in for "real".

I dont recall any of us register like that eighter.We register under are names, i have never heared them say coming to the Line matt keller from Team INline PRo come on man, are you going to register as GSR team!!! hahaha!!!

1 race is more than any that you can say for yourself in this years events and races. That was the second race of the year might i add, the only reason i wasnt at the first is because it was 3,000 miles away, yeah real smart to go to that one if i could. You are a bench racer if you are going to sit and do the shit like you do on here AND NOT RACE, and give excuses about why your arent that make no sense.

HAH Sure man, I know that was the 2nd race of the year, i said you only have raced 1 event this whole year and at that you only made 1 pass and where back on trailor, and im a bench racer becase i didnt attened the 1 race you raced at when i have been going to races for the last 4 years.

If you are such a big bad team like you say you are. Lets see you at the next NDRA races in the qualifying listings, any one of you because i know peters car is running and from the looks of it, alfonsos car is running. I dont know about Bees, but thats 2 out of 3-4 atleast. Theres maryland and ohio left, which are both ATLEAST 900 miles away because i know if my car was ready enough and running good, my ass would be there because thats what racing is as a team, whether you are 2 men, or 10.

See you think you know us so good, we do plan on going to MAryland!! We wont be going to Ohio for 2 reasons
1 its too far to go for nothing,when points are over!!
2 Importshowdown is the same weekend,we rather support a local event and help make it grow!

[boostedb16]

well its already boosted and how much does cost to have a headgasket changed.

any idea.

[SPOOLIN]

sorry, i have a house going up.

sorry, its not an f350.

sorry 4 is not spelled FOR

sorry i made 4 passes not 1

sorry, but let me get this strait. You are going to go to a race that is 600 miles away in maryland. But you are gonna sit and bitch about points bullshit about ohio THAT IS THE SAME GOD DAMN DISTANCE AWAY. Are you kidding me?

Points, pfft, who gives a fuck. If you are in this for money, and just that....you have a serious issues.

[B18c1Turboed]

sorry, but let me get this strait. You are going to go to a race that is 600 miles away in maryland. But you are gonna sit and bitch about points bullshit about ohio THAT IS THE SAME GOD DAMN DISTANCE AWAY. Are you kidding me?

u know for the 1 million time im not racing this year, also NO where not going to OHio where staying in GA to support Showdown race.Why bother driving 14 hours when we can drive 2 hours and compete against everyone in GA?

And No where not in it for the money where in it for the love of the sport!!! If it was the money we would have the nice renegade truck outside and attending all the races,But we do it for the love of speed and setting limits higher!!
What you really think that little gt4067 you bought from MAt is going to help you? And that PWR water to air/intercooler is going to flow so good for you? I swear one day you will learn your leason about buying used parts!!!

[SPOOLIN]

This is Josh,
Its rather nice living in a $330,000 mobile home. My truck with 1000Ft. lbs can pull my house, our race car and your whole teams trucks, cars and trailers all to the track. We should all meet up and me just haul you guys down. The you can talk about how much dick you suck and how we are gay, and redknecks, and are slow and ugly and all that jazz. Then you can tattle on Bee when he moves his leg over your part of the seat cusion. Hell I will even put in a DVD so that you can shut the fuck up. I have cordless Head phones and everything!!!!... OH BOY!

You may be Bank rolling with your insurance company but I kow you didnt type up your policy because you sure as fuck cannot spell and have no sentece structure. But like any employee of the quicky mart can see, only stupid people are breading. You sir get the darwin award.

Now I am going back to fucking my chicken so they will lay larger eggs andI need new tires for the house. I think Wal-mart has a sale on good years, maybe they will last longer.


I SPRINKLE DIAMONDS IN EVERYTHING I OWN!

1. BECAUSE ITS THE MOST BALLING SHIT EVER.
2. IT MAKES MY DOOKIE TWINKLE!

IM RICH BIATCH!

[SPOOLIN]

u know for the 1 million time im not racing this year, also NO where not going to OHio where staying in GA to support Showdown race.Why bother driving 14 hours when we can drive 2 hours and compete against everyone in GA?

And No where not in it for the money where in it for the love of the sport!!! If it was the money we would have the nice renegade truck outside and attending all the races,But we do it for the love of speed and setting limits higher!!
What you really think that little gt4067 you bought from MAt is going to help you? And that PWR water to air/intercooler is going to flow so good for you? I swear one day you will learn your leason about buying used parts!!!

If you loved the sport you would make the drive, your a fucking cum bubble man.

-Josh




Glad to see that you drug me into this. Now why dont you go read the neiborhood rule book for your 1 bizzillion$$ house. I dont think they allow farm animals.

I SPRINKLE DIAMONDS IN EVERYTHING I EAT!

1.ITS THE MOST BALLING SHIT EVER.
2. IT MAKES MY DOOKIE TWINKLE!

[B18c1Turboed]

This is Josh,
Its rather nice living in a $330,000 mobile home.

Im sorry i forgot you lived home with mommy and daddy!!!
Hey will they buy you another 12k 1993 civic.PLEASSSSSSSSE!!

[Vteckidd]

ok this thread is trash any one that wants to talk about boosted b16s or b18s speak up if not stfu.

im assuming you have a str8 forward setup IE T3 turbo, T25 something of that nature?

I would get DSM 450cc injectors, resistor box and see what it makes at 10psi, leave it there, itll be fun.

We can tune it with Chrome with launch control, timing, everything you need. We have made up to 630whp with Chrome so it can support whatever you want out of your car.

If you want to run hondata, Contact Balanced Performance

[boostedb16]

no i talked to scott and he said to sell my hondata and he would tune it for 380.00 including chrome pro but what do you think hp on 8 or 10 psi would be with a t3 intercooled. so yea i am coming to mainstream to get tuned, i agree with what you say about double or triple the hp being unreliable on stock internals and i am not looking for 300 or 400 hp just about 230 or 250 but im on a fmu now so any tuning will be better than that.

[Vteckidd]

with 450cc injectors and a resistor box an chrome you sould be around 210-230whp depending on how healthy the motor is at 8psi.

with Chrome you can ditch the FMU. if your running an FMU heres what you need to buy:

1) 450cc injectors DSM $60-80
2) OBD0 CRX/CIVIC Injector Resistor Box $20
3) Walbro 255lbh Fuel Pump
4) IS your car OBD2? if it is, you need a conversion harness to convert it to OBD1

thats it, an your good for 300whp with those injectors, not that i reccomend that el oh el

in most cases you can sell the hondata an PAY for your tuning with us an get the same results if not better.