well...if you end up getting lucky and purchase a b16 like the one i did that lays down 20+ more whp stock then a normal b16...more whp then a CTR and GSR motor and in ITR territory for the price of a b16 id say get one...but i got EXTREMELY lucky to get the motor i got! It for sure has internals of some type i guess b/c 167whp for a stock b16 wasnt right..lol...we was talking about it over on Importlounge.