Beware!!!!! American muscle inside!

[geoff]

intake/exhaust aint stock. I still dont believe it. Not saying i dont believe *you.... but i dont believe you knew everything about that particular car if it ran that "stock"

also, you think the mid 90s Turbo imports wouldnt respond to intake/exhaust?

I do not consider a drop in filter with stock intake piping and aftermarket mufflers to be modifications that give any real power. I picked up maybe 5hp/5tq from those. I knew exactly what was done to the car. Since then I have invested around another 8k and have a car that should run low 10's/ high 9's if it can hook and it is still streetable. Show me an import for 12k that can do that. That R33 you posted was very nice and quick....but i was reffering to import cars that were sold here state side.

[Sinfix_15]

I do not consider a drop in filter with stock intake piping and aftermarket mufflers to be modifications that give any real power. I picked up maybe 5hp/5tq from those. I knew exactly what was done to the car. Since then I have invested around another 8k and have a car that should run low 10's/ high 9's if it can hook and it is still streetable. Show me an import for 12k that can do that. That R33 you posted was very nice and quick....but i was reffering to import cars that were sold here state side.

So to truely judge american vs japanese, we have to select japanese cars that are made in america? i dont get it....... the term "Americanized" pretty much means to make a sucky version.

Pretty much every year of Skyline starting with the R32 is a far superior car to anything american made. A 1990 GTR would absolute shit all over an Iroc Camaro. An R33 GTR would bitch slap the redneck off an Lt1 Camaro and an there's no denying that an R34 is far superior to the early 2k Fbodies.

Do you really want to compare Camaros to Rx7s or Supras year vs year?

I'm guessing you dont want to include an NSX into this import vs american debate either..... even though it's Honda's flagship sports car.

Now that i'm day dreaming back to the 90s............... are we really even having this conversation right now????????????????????????? There's no comparison. Pretty much from 1990 until the 03 Cobra, imports were dominant.