has anyone on here ever used blox cams? i've heard thay were the exact same as skunk2's, lmk
has anyone on here ever used blox cams? i've heard thay were the exact same as skunk2's, lmk
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roflmao. good one.
here we go again............Originally Posted by 99SI
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^^^Not trying to start again. I have just heard the exact opposite. Blox uses a weaker core and it is nowhere near the gains of a skunk2 or RM M22. Same with their Intake Manifold, the casting is weaker and the ports are much more gnarly than say an AEBS, Skunk2, or Victor. I am very pleased with my M22's and vteckidd is the best place to get some!![]()
ok,thanks
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I have no problem with you, but I've got to say you have to be VtecKidd's #1 fan. Your like another VtecKidd in training or something just in case he dies you can take his spot huh?![]()
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Hey, the little bit of knowledge about Honda's and Honda performance parts I owe to him. That is for sure. I try to help out anyone who has a question on here. I don't know a whole lot but I try to help when I can. I do know that Mike has a great deal of knowledge about what parts do what and what is the best that is for sure. There were quite a few times when I was about to buy a part and he told me to get a less expensive part b/c it worked just as well as the more expensive one. BTW, I thought you were a vteckidd fan as well? I sell cars, I don't work on them so , no I don't have any designs on taking his spot for anything. Just try to help someone out if they have a question.Originally Posted by KevinT707
hasn't anyone ever used blox cams? everyone says i heard this and that but no one has any info on them...strange.... oh well,looks like my threads getting highjacked...lol
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they make dookie manifolds...thats all i know..
and how do you know this,you have one?Originally Posted by single_cam_ham
used one?
seen one?
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BLOX is owned by David Shee. David Shee used to work for skunk2 and was fired. A few years ago, there was a batch of "bad" skunk2 cams that were sent back to the manufacturer because of bad cores. David Shee knew where they came from (skunk2) and bought all the camshafts up on the black market. He originally sold them as Skunk2 product on EBAY with a WHITE BOX. if you know Skunk2, they always come in Black Boxes or Yellow Boxes. He sold alot and bankrolled BLOX.
Blox is sub par or lower standards of matieral Skunk2 products. They are not held to the high standards that Skunk2 uses, and they are inferior. they are however, EXACT COPIES of skunk2 camshafts (the older profiles, not the new PRO series). Spec As, Spec Bs, and Spec Cs are all Stage 1 ,stage 2, stage 3 cams that skunk2 had years ago.
He copied their intake manifold verbatim and sells it.
BLOX did a lot of sales, and still does due to their Cheaper Prices. However, you get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by vteckidd
thats the truth
thanks for the info ,but i still would like to find anyone that has used them....r dyno'ed them...
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Search Honda-TechOriginally Posted by punkr6
lots of people have dynoed them on Honda-Tech. they will make the same power as any Skunk2 cam older profile. However, with shitty cores comes shitty wear and tear. They are known for eating rocker arms which can be expensive to fix.Originally Posted by punkr6
IMO, if hes looking to spend $350-450 on a set of camshafts, i would look on HT for some used good condition Skunk2 Camshafts. they go for pretty cheap. If hes arond the $600 range, i can get him the Pro1s for that much brand new.
if you look around on here and HT i have made 190whp on Halexs motor ( i beleive shane built his engine) , we made 241BHP with them on a 11.1:1 motor 1.8l GSR, and my friend makes 178whp with them on a stock GSR motor with a JDM DC header. all these were made with the new Pro1 Series Skunk camshafts
PRO1s>Any Old Skunk2 cam or blox cam IMO
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190 with low compression ratio I might add.... Anywho, I think he wants some stage ones due to stock motor and valve train, doesnt care to upgrade right now.
"Owning a 9 second import is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise everyone, but in the end you're still gay!"
if thats the case, i would look for ITR cams personally
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yea,shane built it at my house,did he ever sell it?alex still has my o2 sensor so if you see him tell him i'm gonna rip his head off.back to the cams, its not really a money issue i just want some concrete facts on these cams becouse i hear so many people saying the same thing but none of them have tried them..
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i have never had expierience personally with them. I do know people that have run them, and they made decent power (frieds on HT).
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"Owning a 9 second import is like coming out of the closet. At first you surprise everyone, but in the end you're still gay!"
no...but i know how to do a search...Originally Posted by punkr6
the cheapest way is not always the best way...
you are soo right, you get what you pay for in other wordsOriginally Posted by single_cam_ham
i know how to do a search too,and this is part of my search dumb-ass,you said blox was junk but you have no experiance with them.i'm trying to find someone that has them so seeya!! retardOriginally Posted by single_cam_ham
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listen little guy...i have been fooling with Hondas since 1997...get on my level....i don't need to see it to know it's junk! if it goes on a Honda, then i have either installed it or owned it....you are the cheap ass looking to "make your p.o.s. fast..." When you can pull beside my s2000 and smoke me with cheap parts, then i'll appologize..until then....
ouch lol
PunkR6, seriously, i know ALOT of the cam manufacturers like Skunk2, Rocket Motorsports, Brian Crower, and a few others.
it is WELL KNOWN in this INDUSTRY that Blox is substandard parts. Use them, and you will make more power than stock, but be prepared to replace rocker arms in the near future.
its like OBX, there is a 25 page thread on hT. 5% of the poeple bought OBX cams and had no problems. 95% of the others, expierience rocker arm failure in less than 1000miles. in some cases less than 50 miles. now what if that 5% that had a decent expierience (i would bet 3% of that 5% dont even know how to look for a bad rocker arm so their opinion is moot) and they come in here and say"HEY I HAD NO PROBLEMS". thats your FIRST hand expeirience, but its not indicitive of what the Norm is.
so, buy them, but beware.
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hater-aid on the house
Last edited by punkr6; 01-23-2006 at 04:10 PM.
can't we just all get along, forget about the blox cams, just go with type-r cams like vteckidd said, but if you're looking for a little more gain then go with skunk2 stage 1. The more you invest into it the more gains you will see. And OBX is not good at all because my friend got them off ebay thinking that it would be the shit and had the same problem.
thanks but its not about the money,and i know about obx.i would never buy obx.its just funny that not one person has had blox on here.but everyone is against them,i just picked up an issue of import tuner that were bragging on blox cams,saying how good thay were made from chilled cores and all.oh well,thanks anywayOriginally Posted by krucial7integra
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import tuner will brag about them because Blox pays for advertising with Import Tuner. they arent going to give a bad review on someone that pays for advertising.
Magazines are the WORST place to get info about a product. its all political and driven by advertising money. Just like the new Sport Compact car that has a 10K$ K series that makes over 300whp, when you can go buy a full Skunk2 longblock K series for $8500 shipped that makes 330whp.
Just like the old import tuner that did the 200whp NA b16, they spend 14k$ on bullshit parts that they didnt need but used them cause they were sponsors of the magazine, when omni man did it for under $6000.
Blox=Skunk2s defected camshafts. i dont care what anyone says. i know this for a fact, and thats why ill never buy them.
good luck
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just wondering vteckidd is a skunk 2 intake manifold better then the aebs intake manifold or blow intake manifold for the b16 head
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AEBS makes more power than the old skunk2, but i have not dynoed a new PRO series manifold yet.
I like the AEBS cause it makes awesome gains, for $140. cant get a Pro series for that
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Originally Posted by punkr6
you're a joke bro...39 and trying to impress the kiddies...so sad...
maybe when i get up there in your years i'll be an adult like you...something tells me you masturbate alot and have no friends...Spend oodles of money on Super Street mags wishing you can get on my level....
not trying to impress anyone,just asking about blox camsOriginally Posted by single_cam_ham
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When it comes to internal work DO NOT cheap out! If the cam snaps in 2 you gonna wish you got the sk2's...... They mark them down so cheap so youll buy them without thinking...
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True that. Cams aren't like intakes or shift knobs. Dont cheap out in the beginning and u'll save alot of money in the longrun. Cams only go with whats proven that WORKS Skunks,Crower,ITR,CTR,Toda,Spoon or atlest JGOriginally Posted by Goinfasterthanu
forget aftermarket cams go with Type R cams
type R cams is worth the money
big difference in the pro 1's and pro 2's?.....my whole thing with my ls/vtec project is that if ima have to change out the valve springs and retainers, why not get better cams? you gotta be BUILT to use higher then pro1's?
i think if you're going to do anything with cams, and you dont plan on upgrading valve springs and retainers and shit then go ITR or CTR but if u gonna upgrade big then GO BIG......i cant stand using parts that EVERYBODY uses, but thats me personally, and i see what you're asking and why you are asking it. i have not personally used blox cams but i did have a blox intake manifold and i never had a problem with it at all.....good luck
Pro2s will make around 7-10 more whp than Pro1s. however, i wouldnt not use Pro2s unless you have a ported head and a nice header. If you have a mild motor (ie rods and pistons) and a decent header, stick with the pro1s
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about how much whp more do the pro1's make over lets say some itr cams?