true but also in that sense i personally like to know what im getting,cause even though they say the shape the motor is in isnt always true.(no offense).i mean and a couple of pluses on the hybrid,is the long stroke 55 mains plus the flow of the head and the possibilty to put k20 pistons to bump the compression up to make a fairly cheap stroker that will more than likely roll on a h22. to me honestly the slighty low rev limit on the setup is one downfall.just personal opinion though.