1998 Acura Integra Type R vs. 2010 Honda Civic Si

[superboost]

This article makes love Honda and hate Honda all the same. What I would do for a serious performance machine from the H these days. Sadly, even my RSX feels weighty and vague when compared to Integra's I have driven.

We're here Honda, we still exist, and we're still waiting.

What is sad is that the SUV and the downfall it caused after this, effectively killed the japanese sports car. We may still see a resurgance, but aside from the Evo and now neutered STI, you don't see much. Gone are the ITRs, 300zx's (350z dosn't count lol), 3000Gts and Supras. All across the board were seeing this . No entry level or high level pure sports cars or even GT tourers. These new cars are all "sporty", but not true sports cars.

[Nerdsrock22]

What is sad is that the SUV and the downfall it caused after this, effectively killed the japanese sports car. We may still see a resurgance, but aside from the Evo and now neutered STI, you don't see much. Gone are the ITRs, 300zx's (350z dosn't count lol), 3000Gts and Supras. All across the board were seeing this . No entry level or high level pure sports cars or even GT tourers. These new cars are all "sporty", but not true sports cars.

I see where you are coming from, but I'm not sure I buy it.

While FWD performance has been lacking lately, I think we are in a huge resurgence of performance in general. The Evo, STI (I realize it's softer, but it's hardly a wimp), 370z (lighter, smaller, faster), Miata, Genesis (the new standard for affordable performance), the forthcoming FT86, not to mention the Camaro and Mustang...the only company who has dropped the ball (per se) is Honda. And even then, Honda still offers a wonderful Type R in Japan that would undoubtedly run circles around an ITR. I started thinking about this article last night, and it's really not a fair comparision. The EP3R and DC5R were both uncompromised Honda performance hallmarks, on par with the ITR.

A more accurate comparison would be to match up the ITR, the DC5R, and the new FD(?)R. That would be a more accurate yardstick to see if Honda has (and to what extent) moved away from their performance values.

We just don't get them.

[VTECking]

the only company who has dropped the ball (per se) is Honda.

Yea Honda hasnt quite dropped the ball yet. Dont forget about the Mugen Civic type R-R