Being different vs. Making power

[BABY J]

I think this topic will make a good discussion

When it comes to natural aspiration Honda people I notice there is two groups of people, people who wants to make power. Then there's people who wants to make power and be "different".

Here is where you miss it. The "be different" people aren't neccessarily looking for "power". They are looking for "power out of THEIR setup". Take you and putting OEM parts in that b16 - LOL. It took you 12 miles to come around my STOCK LS in the wagon from a 60 roll - imagine had we went from the dig - GAME OVER... and you made 40 more HP. I could laugh at you (again) or I could say "hey - that's my dude and that's what he wants to build". Didn't set any world records but it's what you wanted to do so roll with it. It's a simple mind that thinks "oh, I make more power than him so I win." If you think of it as a pissing contest then you will never understand some1 that wants to build something "less popular" or something where it's "harder" to make power.

At the end of the day -- there is NO "road not traveled" anymore in N/A Honda performance. It's all been done before.

My question for the second group of people. You want to go fast, right. So why not just go fast?

Not every1 wants to go "fast". Think about what you just said. A 75 - 100 shot on a STOCK GSR would RAPE you Dare and the sleeves will last twice as long. If you wanted to "go fast" you'd do that and laugh at the guys ordering cams and throttle bodies. To take time out of your day trying to get into some1 else's psychy is a waste of effort. Build what you want --- then they will build what they want. That's how I see it. When I was green I built whatever every1 was building... made a name for myself and had to time to get into the scene, build shit - break shit - get out of it - and then get back into it. As a mature/seasoned builder I now build what I want.

What's the point of being "different"?

I can't speak for any1 but me... but in my case it has less to do w/ being "different" and more to do with building what you want to build and not giving a shit who "accepts" or "likes" it. It has to do with tapping parts of my creativity that haven't been tapped yet. (for this same reason I will only build 1 more Honda then I'll step away from the brand altogether - then it's off to my Mazda). NOT to be "diff" and build an N/A Mazda - but b/c it's what I want to build and I can start from ground 1 learning all the shit that it's taken me years to learn about Honda/Acura - all of a sudden switching it up makes it interesting for me again. Without that - I'd hang it up and be done with it years ago.

Also, is it really being different if there's a cult of people doing the same thing your doing (such as building LS motors or d16s)?

There is a CULT of people doing EVERYTHING that you can name. There is NO1 with a built Honda that is "different", regardless of the block code and stamp on the head.

I couldn't give 2 shits about what some2 else is building (I do offer my advice so they don't make mistakes that I have made - but I leave it at that if they don't want to accept it). And the reason why I don't care/worry about what some1 else is building is b/c I don't have tits or wear panties.

[r.etheridge]

Here is where you miss it. The "be different" people aren't neccessarily looking for "power". They are looking for "power out of THEIR setup". Take you and putting OEM parts in that b16 - LOL. It took you 12 miles to come around my STOCK LS in the wagon from a 60 roll - imagine had we went from the dig - GAME OVER... and you made 40 more HP. I could laugh at you (again) or I could say "hey - that's my dude and that's what he wants to build". Didn't set any world records but it's what you wanted to do so roll with it. It's a simple mind that thinks "oh, I make more power than him so I win." If you think of it as a pissing contest then you will never understand some1 that wants to build something "less popular" or something where it's "harder" to make power.

At the end of the day -- there is NO "road not traveled" anymore in N/A Honda performance. It's all been done before.



Not every1 wants to go "fast". Think about what you just said. A 75 - 100 shot on a STOCK GSR would RAPE you Dare and the sleeves will last twice as long. If you wanted to "go fast" you'd do that and laugh at the guys ordering cams and throttle bodies. To take time out of your day trying to get into some1 else's psychy is a waste of effort. Build what you want --- then they will build what they want. That's how I see it. When I was green I built whatever every1 was building... made a name for myself and had to time to get into the scene, build shit - break shit - get out of it - and then get back into it. As a mature/seasoned builder I now build what I want.



I can't speak for any1 but me... but in my case it has less to do w/ being "different" and more to do with building what you want to build and not giving a shit who "accepts" or "likes" it. It has to do with tapping parts of my creativity that haven't been tapped yet. (for this same reason I will only build 1 more Honda then I'll step away from the brand altogether - then it's off to my Mazda). NOT to be "diff" and build an N/A Mazda - but b/c it's what I want to build and I can start from ground 1 learning all the shit that it's taken me years to learn about Honda/Acura - all of a sudden switching it up makes it interesting for me again. Without that - I'd hang it up and be done with it years ago.



There is a CULT of people doing EVERYTHING that you can name. There is NO1 with a built Honda that is "different", regardless of the block code and stamp on the head.

I couldn't give 2 shits about what some2 else is building (I do offer my advice so they don't make mistakes that I have made - but I leave it at that if they don't want to accept it). And the reason why I don't care/worry about what some1 else is building is b/c I don't have tits or wear panties.

Damn!

[bigdare23]

Here is where you miss it. The "be different" people aren't neccessarily looking for "power". They are looking for "power out of THEIR setup". Take you and putting OEM parts in that b16 - LOL. It took you 12 miles to come around my STOCK LS in the wagon from a 60 roll - imagine had we went from the dig - GAME OVER... and you made 40 more HP. I could laugh at you (again) or I could say "hey - that's my dude and that's what he wants to build". Didn't set any world records but it's what you wanted to do so roll with it. It's a simple mind that thinks "oh, I make more power than him so I win." If you think of it as a pissing contest then you will never understand some1 that wants to build something "less popular" or something where it's "harder" to make power.

At the end of the day -- there is NO "road not traveled" anymore in N/A Honda performance. It's all been done before.



Not every1 wants to go "fast". Think about what you just said. A 75 - 100 shot on a STOCK GSR would RAPE you Dare and the sleeves will last twice as long. If you wanted to "go fast" you'd do that and laugh at the guys ordering cams and throttle bodies. To take time out of your day trying to get into some1 else's psychy is a waste of effort. Build what you want --- then they will build what they want. That's how I see it. When I was green I built whatever every1 was building... made a name for myself and had to time to get into the scene, build shit - break shit - get out of it - and then get back into it. As a mature/seasoned builder I now build what I want.



I can't speak for any1 but me... but in my case it has less to do w/ being "different" and more to do with building what you want to build and not giving a shit who "accepts" or "likes" it. It has to do with tapping parts of my creativity that haven't been tapped yet. (for this same reason I will only build 1 more Honda then I'll step away from the brand altogether - then it's off to my Mazda). NOT to be "diff" and build an N/A Mazda - but b/c it's what I want to build and I can start from ground 1 learning all the shit that it's taken me years to learn about Honda/Acura - all of a sudden switching it up makes it interesting for me again. Without that - I'd hang it up and be done with it years ago.



There is a CULT of people doing EVERYTHING that you can name. There is NO1 with a built Honda that is "different", regardless of the block code and stamp on the head.

I couldn't give 2 shits about what some2 else is building (I do offer my advice so they don't make mistakes that I have made - but I leave it at that if they don't want to accept it). And the reason why I don't care/worry about what some1 else is building is b/c I don't have tits or wear panties.

Only 556 words, I was expecting more than that from ya Mr. Vtec Killer. I'll respond back once I get some rest.