Originally Posted by Tasuki_Civic
Some stupid replies in here.
Even on a bolt on motor with a cam ITB's can help a lot, on a Miata you can gain 40WHP from ITB's alone.
yeah i hear you i've had two sets also and you really have to be committed to use them because they will drive you damn crazy. even though most of my tuning issues came from using piece of crap aem ems, the dta will be on the this month and all my issues should be resolved.
that is true but the factory design on the intake manifold has alot to do with that power increase most of the time for mild setups on hondas a intake manifold is really all they need especially with all the aftermarket options out there.
now with the lack of aftermarket intake manifold designs for miatas i can see where that would be a wise choice.
Show me a set of ITBs that makes 40whp when compared to a properly sized Plenum an TB
YOU CANT cause it DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.
For every guy that has made XXX whp, i can pull a dyno chart of a car with a $100 intake manifold and $100 TB making the SAME POWER.
With todays camshafts the Area Under the curve is easily made up with ramp rates and primary sizes. The only ITBs worth anything are too big for street car setups.
there isnt one person on this website, INCLUDING ME, that needs ITBs, PERIOD. I made 237whp/160TQ with a $100 AEBS Intake manifold , 70mm Skunk2 TB and a $100 port match done by DFE. How many people with a B Series in the last 5 years have come NEAR my numbers............ZERO. There hasnt been anyone within 15whp with a B Series.
ITBs cost too much to tune and are too much hassle and most people just think they are "cool". They dont add 40 PEAK WHP, thats absolute BULLSHIT unless they are comparing it to the same motor with a dime sized Throttle body
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i agree with u
most street cars thats equipped with itbs are basically doing it for the "cool" factor. HECK! i did mine because i like the growling symphony that itbs make. i dont expect alot of HP/WHP gain from it at all but it will increase ur throttle response for the most part![]()
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