no if you have to ask you don't need them
no if you have to ask you don't need them
its funny how u try to be a prick.......Originally Posted by all-mota
i just love how people try to be like gaah ur so dumb.
if u wanted to be "different" here in the world of ia u should have tried to give some constructive criticism instead of some little bitch answer. i mean my question had already been answered. i know u have made some power with ur car (not in reps) but i dont know u at all but i have been around a little wile. in fact a just a little longer than u but that nonsense u posted was just un called for. its "Almost" like u read the thread title and u were like o man im a bad ass and im gona come in here and show this fooo whats up. lol ur so lame and really i am as well for taking this few seconds to reflect how dumb u are.
lol reps... i guess im dumb and lame too as i took the time to read it, and im taking even more time replying to it as well
EDIT: must spread reps.... ill hit ya when i can. lol.
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lol your a fucking idiot man i didn't come in here to be a dick you assumed i was. and the "oh i'm a badass i'm gonna show this guy whats up" thats funny that you say that because my car has jack shit to do with my attitude but you assume it does. if i drove a stock ass integra my reply would have been the same thing.
my constructive criticism is that if you weren't so stupid you would realize the truth in my statement 99.9% of the time if someone has to ask if they are worth using they don't know jack shit or what it takes to run them much less tune them. so before you try to be a smartass about how long i've been on this site sit back and think about something, i want you to go back and search how many threads there are on this forum asking the same question you just ask and they all get the same reply.
most people like them just because of the way they look and have no clue of the pro's or con's of them. i've been around long enough to know what the hell i'm doing regardless of my join date on this site.
But when you click on the allmotor forum and see the same damn stupid ass questions every few weeks it's get slightly annoying. especially when everyone that ask says they have a stock block lsvtec with a b16 head and gsr cams and wants to know if itb's are the way to go or not, followed shortly by yeah man there awesome just make some homemade ones they work great, when in reality they have no real world experience with them but they saw them in last months issue of honda tuning.
and thanks my day just got better knowing that i gained your approval.
Last edited by all-mota; 01-10-2010 at 07:23 PM.
THIS.
and I have two QUALITY sets of itb's.they do look and sound sick, but for 90% of people into honda's you should just get an aebs IM, port it for cheap, and gain probably as much or more peak without all the tuning hassles (been there doing that, lol).
Some stupid replies in here.
Even on a bolt on motor with a cam ITB's can help a lot, on a Miata you can gain 40WHP from ITB's alone.
yeah i hear you i've had two sets also and you really have to be committed to use them because they will drive you damn crazy. even though most of my tuning issues came from using piece of crap aem ems, the dta will be on the this month and all my issues should be resolved.THIS.
and I have two QUALITY sets of itb's.
that is true but the factory design on the intake manifold has alot to do with that power increase most of the time for mild setups on hondas a intake manifold is really all they need especially with all the aftermarket options out there.
now with the lack of aftermarket intake manifold designs for miatas i can see where that would be a wise choice.
Show me a set of ITBs that makes 40whp when compared to a properly sized Plenum an TB
YOU CANT cause it DOESNT WORK THAT WAY.
For every guy that has made XXX whp, i can pull a dyno chart of a car with a $100 intake manifold and $100 TB making the SAME POWER.
With todays camshafts the Area Under the curve is easily made up with ramp rates and primary sizes. The only ITBs worth anything are too big for street car setups.
there isnt one person on this website, INCLUDING ME, that needs ITBs, PERIOD. I made 237whp/160TQ with a $100 AEBS Intake manifold , 70mm Skunk2 TB and a $100 port match done by DFE. How many people with a B Series in the last 5 years have come NEAR my numbers............ZERO. There hasnt been anyone within 15whp with a B Series.
ITBs cost too much to tune and are too much hassle and most people just think they are "cool". They dont add 40 PEAK WHP, thats absolute BULLSHIT unless they are comparing it to the same motor with a dime sized Throttle body
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i agree with u
most street cars thats equipped with itbs are basically doing it for the "cool" factor. HECK! i did mine because i like the growling symphony that itbs make. i dont expect alot of HP/WHP gain from it at all but it will increase ur throttle response for the most part
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