g35 vs s2000 compare

[Elbow]

I agree it is about driver skill. But, the GT-R is a tool and gives any driver better equipment to work with than (again) any other factory produced car. Put the same driver in the ACR, ZR1, GT3RS, or any other limited production car as the GT-R and the driver will turn better lap times in the GT-R. The cars you see getting passed are owners like myself who are out there to have fun...not pushing their cars...and are just enjoying the track.

Tune up a GT-R like Forged Performance, GOTO Racing, and Fontana Nissan have done and put a professional driver in them (nothing against Sharif's, Bobby's or Mike's driving skills) with Hoosiers strapped on and you have some of the best lap times at any track. Heck, Sharif has the second fastest lap time ever (beat only by .01 second) at Little Talladega. GOTO Racing's unlimited Time Attack GT-R posted the fastest top speed at Auto Club Speedway and, as far as lap times are concerned, was right on the heels of the AMS unlimited EVO and FX unlimited NSX. And both of those cars are Frankensteins designed and built for nothing but chewing up the track. No expense spared and longevity isn't a consideration.

The GT-R has not only proven itself in this arena, but all of them are still using the factory GR6 transmission and stock block VR38DETT. If you aren't impressed by this, then, again, there is not much that can impress you.

Jonathon...Super Silver, right? If not, I don't think I know him.

As far as me putting mine on the track...I am contemplating this as I have been told numerous times that I will never truly enjoy the car until I do. And I am beginning to believe these people. The only caveat is that I have an addictive personality and I already spend very little time with other hobbies as it is. *haha*

It's a quick car yes, but you're holding the standards too high for it. I've seen pro drivers run in a GTR then in say a ZR1 and the ZR1 was faster. The GTR does have lots of electronic gizmos, that's what I and many others dislike about the car, I personally drive better then a GTR's computer.

[stormcrow]

It's a quick car yes, but you're holding the standards too high for it. I've seen pro drivers run in a GTR then in say a ZR1 and the ZR1 was faster. The GTR does have lots of electronic gizmos, that's what I and many others dislike about the car, I personally drive better then a GTR's computer.

You dislike technology? Ok. But, if you knew anything about the GT-R, you would know that those "gizmos" are actually a detriment when trying to make the car fast. With the GT-R, the days of typical power-adders are over.

Debating racing the GT-R with someone who doesn't even understand the technology is boring.

When you run better lap times than Sharif Abdelbasset, Brian Lock or Mike Cronnin, Jr. let me know.

[SandM]

You dislike technology? Ok. But, if you knew anything about the GT-R, you would know that those "gizmos" are actually a detriment when trying to make the car fast. With the GT-R, the days of typical power-adders are over.

simon, like a lot of people i know, including myself, don't like the added technology because these additions take away from the driver connection to a car. not saying that these don't help the car go faster, because it's true... but they make the car go faster than you know how to drive it because every little move has already been calculated out for you.

[stormcrow]

simon, like a lot of people i know, including myself, don't like the added technology because these additions take away from the driver connection to a car. not saying that these don't help the car go faster, because it's true... but they make the car go faster than you know how to drive it because every little move has already been calculated out for you.

this is true...to a point. i have already mentioned my disconnect with the GT-R vs. the heavily modified 350Z that i had... but, this doesn't discount the fact that there are a lot of myths about the technology in the GT-R and what it does for a driver, as well as, the lack of knowledge about how the technology actually hinders a driver when they truly want to make the car a track monster and divert from stock.

[stormcrow]

I've done faster times in cars then any new GTR at Road Atlanta, obviosuly the cars weren't stock and I haven't driven a stock car out there that is comparable to the GTR.

I clearly understand the technology behind it, but I don't like it, there is too much. It changes the way I drive cars.

Don't be close minded just because you own a GTR, I don't know any GTR owners who really LOVE the car and most are selling theirs for something more worthy.

i don't think myself close-minded at all... quite the contrary. i have posted my truest of feelings about the GT-R and its capabilities.

btw, proof of these times would be nice.

Arguing with simon about cars is like arguing with a 5 year old about pokemon cards. He knows "everything" about all cars, and has or knows someone that has "every car". He has driven "every car" and is only impressed by cars that do not have a JDM badge attached, unless of course it's a miata.

i am beginning to see this. it is true that most people hate what the GT-R has accomplished and the green-eyed monster tends to rear its ugly head when speaking of the car...especially from those whom are European or American Muscle fanbois.

[Elbow]

You dislike technology? Ok. But, if you knew anything about the GT-R, you would know that those "gizmos" are actually a detriment when trying to make the car fast. With the GT-R, the days of typical power-adders are over.

Debating racing the GT-R with someone who doesn't even understand the technology is boring.

When you run better lap times than Sharif Abdelbasset, Brian Lock or Mike Cronnin, Jr. let me know.

I've done faster times in cars then any new GTR at Road Atlanta, obviosuly the cars weren't stock and I haven't driven a stock car out there that is comparable to the GTR.

I clearly understand the technology behind it, but I don't like it, there is too much. It changes the way I drive cars.

Don't be close minded just because you own a GTR, I don't know any GTR owners who really LOVE the car and most are selling theirs for something more worthy.

[xxbckiexx]

You dislike technology? Ok. But, if you knew anything about the GT-R, you would know that those "gizmos" are actually a detriment when trying to make the car fast. With the GT-R, the days of typical power-adders are over.

Debating racing the GT-R with someone who doesn't even understand the technology is boring.

When you run better lap times than Sharif Abdelbasset, Brian Lock or Mike Cronnin, Jr. let me know.

Arguing with simon about cars is like arguing with a 5 year old about pokemon cards. He knows "everything" about all cars, and has or knows someone that has "every car". He has driven "every car" and is only impressed by cars that do not have a JDM badge attached, unless of course it's a miata.

[5speed]

Arguing with simon about cars is like arguing with a 5 year old about pokemon cards. He knows "everything" about all cars, and has or knows someone that has "every car". He has driven "every car" and is only impressed by cars that do not have a JDM badge attached, unless of course it's a miata.

LOL, I have thought of that one myself. I am not gonna say Simon is lying but I will say I want some Video or proof of Lap times at Road A. I always heard that he were a great driver...but only coming from him. No one else has ever backed him up on that one. Just curious to see where this goes.

[DirtyMechanic]

Arguing with simon about cars is like arguing with a 5 year old about pokemon cards. He knows "everything" about all cars, and has or knows someone that has "every car". He has driven "every car" and is only impressed by cars that do not have a JDM badge attached, unless of course it's a miata.

this is true simon is gods gift to the automotive industry. he knows everything about everything about every car.