g35 vs s2000 compare

[stormcrow]

No I've driven it on the back roads around, compared to other cars I've driven and the hype I was disappointed. It's personal preference, it's not even a top ten impressive car. I'd love to try one around the track to really beat it up but it just doesn't suit me driving preferences. Plus they look like shit, no offense.

There's your problem. Back roads for the GT-R are like "touch & go(s)" for an F-22 Raptor. If you ever get to experience one on a track, you will be impressed. This is where it shines.

I don't drive mine to its ability. I have taken it to the north GA mountains and could not even push the car to its limits. It was bitter-sweet as I was impressed with the GT-R's abilities, but I, as the driver, was seemingly not even needed. The car practically drove itself. Honestly, there was a bit of a disconnect there. Where I had to really worry about oversteer in my 600whp 350Z...I didn't even have to think about what the GT-R was going to do. But, on the track, where the car can be brutalized, if you are left unimpressed, then I promise there is no vehicle that will give you satisfaction.

[Elbow]

There's your problem. Back roads for the GT-R are like "touch & go(s)" for an F-22 Raptor. If you ever get to experience one on a track, you will be impressed. This is where it shines.

I don't drive mine to its ability. I have taken it to the north GA mountains and could not even push the car to its limits. It was bitter-sweet as I was impressed with the GT-R's abilities, but I, as the driver, was seemingly not even needed. The car practically drove itself. Honestly, there was a bit of a disconnect there. Where I had to really worry about oversteer in my 600whp 350Z...I didn't even have to think about what the GT-R was going to do. But, on the track, where the car can be brutalized, if you are left unimpressed, then I promise there is no vehicle that will give you satisfaction.

I've driven cars on the track I KNOW would KILL the GTR in speed and satisfaction lol.

One reason I don't like the GTR and most I know who have them don't like them is the fact the do drive themselves in a sense. I like real dealing with oversteer or fixing understeer, etc.

A friend of mine tracks an FD RX-7 regularly it's basically stock minus suspension, he also has a GTR. There is a reason he doesn't track the GTR.

[S13_Chody]

A friend of mine tracks an FD RX-7 regularly it's basically stock minus suspension, he also has a GTR. There is a reason he doesn't track the GTR.

ummm cuz the 7 cost 70k less?

thats my guess......

Its called a "G" for a reason! get that one!

[stormcrow]

I've driven cars on the track I KNOW would KILL the GTR in speed and satisfaction lol.

One reason I don't like the GTR and most I know who have them don't like them is the fact the do drive themselves in a sense. I like real dealing with oversteer or fixing understeer, etc.

A friend of mine tracks an FD RX-7 regularly it's basically stock minus suspension, he also has a GTR. There is a reason he doesn't track the GTR.

I enjoy the connection with the car, as well. This is the reason why I stated that the North GA mountains can't push the car to my satisfaction. But, that is my fault. If I would take her to the track, I would enjoy her much more.

Please do tell me which cars you have driven that would "KILL" the GT-R on the track? There are very few that are capable of such...and these have to be very highly modified. Again, I said OEM vs. OEM. I promise you can't name a car that would "KILL" the GT-R on the track that is an OEM production car.

As for your friend...I bet the reason he doesn't track his GT-R is two-fold. 1) the cost of doing so is ridiculous as far as maintenance goes. And unless he has a hook-up with a shop that performs aftermarket GT-R work, then he is reliant upon a Nissan dealership...which means, of course, big $$$...or... 2) he doesn't want to damage his GT-R.

btw, what is the name of your friend? I know pretty much all GT-R owners in the Atlanta area and I know plenty around the world from NAGTROC. We are a tight-knit community.

[Elbow]

I enjoy the connection with the car, as well. This is the reason why I stated that the North GA mountains can't push the car to my satisfaction. But, that is my fault. If I would take her to the track, I would enjoy her much more.

Please do tell me which cars you have driven that would "KILL" the GT-R on the track? There are very few that are capable of such...and these have to be very highly modified. Again, I said OEM vs. OEM. I promise you can't name a car that would "KILL" the GT-R on the track that is an OEM production car.

As for your friend...I bet the reason he doesn't track his GT-R is two-fold. 1) the cost of doing so is ridiculous as far as maintenance goes. And unless he has a hook-up with a shop that performs aftermarket GT-R work, then he is reliant upon a Nissan dealership...which means, of course, big $$$...or... 2) he doesn't want to damage his GT-R.

btw, what is the name of your friend? I know pretty much all GT-R owners in the Atlanta area and I know plenty around the world from NAGTROC. We are a tight-knit community.

I'm not speaking of OEM but 911-GT3 Cup, Radical, etc. Actual track cars. I am willing to bet though many could outrun a GTR in a ZR1, ACR Viper, GT3RS, etc. With the right drivers, I work almost every event at Road Atlanta and see tons of GTR's on track, with much faster cars passing them. It's all driver skill and from the looks it takes confidence to trust the GTR's electronic aids. The GTR's specs and reviews sound great, but in the real world they don't always stack up.

His name is Jonathon I don't want to mention last names for obvious reasons especially on IA lol.

He's tracked it a few times and just said it's not fun, cost definitely isn't an issue for him, as it shouldn't be to anyone who buys an expensive car.

Lets run your car at the track, I will be the instructor and let me do a few laps.

[stormcrow]

I'm not speaking of OEM but 911-GT3 Cup, Radical, etc. Actual track cars. I am willing to bet though many could outrun a GTR in a ZR1, ACR Viper, GT3RS, etc. With the right drivers, I work almost every event at Road Atlanta and see tons of GTR's on track, with much faster cars passing them. It's all driver skill and from the looks it takes confidence to trust the GTR's electronic aids. The GTR's specs and reviews sound great, but in the real world they don't always stack up.

His name is Jonathon I don't want to mention last names for obvious reasons especially on IA lol.

He's tracked it a few times and just said it's not fun, cost definitely isn't an issue for him, as it shouldn't be to anyone who buys an expensive car.

Lets run your car at the track, I will be the instructor and let me do a few laps.

I agree it is about driver skill. But, the GT-R is a tool and gives any driver better equipment to work with than (again) any other factory produced car. Put the same driver in the ACR, ZR1, GT3RS, or any other limited production car as the GT-R and the driver will turn better lap times in the GT-R. The cars you see getting passed are owners like myself who are out there to have fun...not pushing their cars...and are just enjoying the track.

Tune up a GT-R like Forged Performance, GOTO Racing, and Fontana Nissan have done and put a professional driver in them (nothing against Sharif's, Bobby's or Mike's driving skills) with Hoosiers strapped on and you have some of the best lap times at any track. Heck, Sharif has the second fastest lap time ever (beat only by .01 second) at Little Talladega. GOTO Racing's unlimited Time Attack GT-R posted the fastest top speed at Auto Club Speedway and, as far as lap times are concerned, was right on the heels of the AMS unlimited EVO and FX unlimited NSX. And both of those cars are Frankensteins designed and built for nothing but chewing up the track. No expense spared and longevity isn't a consideration.

The GT-R has not only proven itself in this arena, but all of them are still using the factory GR6 transmission and stock block VR38DETT. If you aren't impressed by this, then, again, there is not much that can impress you.

Jonathon...Super Silver, right? If not, I don't think I know him.

As far as me putting mine on the track...I am contemplating this as I have been told numerous times that I will never truly enjoy the car until I do. And I am beginning to believe these people. The only caveat is that I have an addictive personality and I already spend very little time with other hobbies as it is. *haha*

[Elbow]

I agree it is about driver skill. But, the GT-R is a tool and gives any driver better equipment to work with than (again) any other factory produced car. Put the same driver in the ACR, ZR1, GT3RS, or any other limited production car as the GT-R and the driver will turn better lap times in the GT-R. The cars you see getting passed are owners like myself who are out there to have fun...not pushing their cars...and are just enjoying the track.

Tune up a GT-R like Forged Performance, GOTO Racing, and Fontana Nissan have done and put a professional driver in them (nothing against Sharif's, Bobby's or Mike's driving skills) with Hoosiers strapped on and you have some of the best lap times at any track. Heck, Sharif has the second fastest lap time ever (beat only by .01 second) at Little Talladega. GOTO Racing's unlimited Time Attack GT-R posted the fastest top speed at Auto Club Speedway and, as far as lap times are concerned, was right on the heels of the AMS unlimited EVO and FX unlimited NSX. And both of those cars are Frankensteins designed and built for nothing but chewing up the track. No expense spared and longevity isn't a consideration.

The GT-R has not only proven itself in this arena, but all of them are still using the factory GR6 transmission and stock block VR38DETT. If you aren't impressed by this, then, again, there is not much that can impress you.

Jonathon...Super Silver, right? If not, I don't think I know him.

As far as me putting mine on the track...I am contemplating this as I have been told numerous times that I will never truly enjoy the car until I do. And I am beginning to believe these people. The only caveat is that I have an addictive personality and I already spend very little time with other hobbies as it is. *haha*

It's a quick car yes, but you're holding the standards too high for it. I've seen pro drivers run in a GTR then in say a ZR1 and the ZR1 was faster. The GTR does have lots of electronic gizmos, that's what I and many others dislike about the car, I personally drive better then a GTR's computer.

[stormcrow]

It's a quick car yes, but you're holding the standards too high for it. I've seen pro drivers run in a GTR then in say a ZR1 and the ZR1 was faster. The GTR does have lots of electronic gizmos, that's what I and many others dislike about the car, I personally drive better then a GTR's computer.

You dislike technology? Ok. But, if you knew anything about the GT-R, you would know that those "gizmos" are actually a detriment when trying to make the car fast. With the GT-R, the days of typical power-adders are over.

Debating racing the GT-R with someone who doesn't even understand the technology is boring.

When you run better lap times than Sharif Abdelbasset, Brian Lock or Mike Cronnin, Jr. let me know.