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11-13-2009, 10:29 AM
GAtegs

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Bottom line on the web and car culture: The web did not create unoriginal works on cars. People did that. It would have made it to this point eventually. The web just sped up the process. Later, QD.

This is all I am saying.

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Originally Posted by BABY J

I do! :goodjob: That's why I like going to little farmtown car shows. These guys are working too much to hop online ... lol. To see what they come up with is good stuff - and it's SIMPLE. I passed a Corvair crew heading N on i65 on my way here (I'm in Indy right now, heading back tonight actually) but as I passed these 60 - 70 year olds going 50 in the right lane in a caravan every single car was "different" and there was at least 15 of them. Subtle things that a young tuner these days would miss... no offense to the kids but a lot of them just don't have the eye yet - that will develop over time. But I can close my eyes and pick any 15 Civics in ATL and at least 3 will be carbon copies of ea other.

Here is an example. Go to the Rota website :

http://www.rotawheels.com/wheelcatalog.asp

Tell me why there are Rotas that I have NEVER seen before? You know why? B/c every1 rocks the SAME 5 sets. LOL. "The web" or "the scene" has determined which ones are "kool" and if you're caught w/ the polished Slips you're the man. But don't be caught DEAD running the Rota Whateverthefucks though. :D OH NO!!!! SUICIDE!!! BANNED FOR LIFE!!! Find me 2 people in all of atl w/ the w/ the Speed 5s. Not gonna happen. :) And these are more "unique" and unseen IMO.
http://www.rotawheels.com/images/products/speed5_1.jpg

People are trying wayyyy too hard these days to "fit something" and it sucks.

No doubt they are unique and unseen, but at the same time, they're fuckin ugly and that's why you don't see them. Same reason people are not rocking the new Nissan Scion xA or xB with the weird back window...it's not because people told them not to, it's because they are fuckin ugly.
11-13-2009, 10:32 AM
BABY J

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAtegs

This is all I am saying.

No doubt they are unique and unseen, but at the same time, they're fuckin ugly and that's why you don't see them. Same reason people are not rocking the new Nissan Scion xA or xB with the weird back window...it's not because people told them not to, it's because they are fuckin ugly.

I'm gonna buy these and put them on something I got coming. I just decided that 3 seconds ago.:goodjob: LOL.
11-13-2009, 10:39 AM
quickdodge®

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAtegs

No doubt they are unique and unseen, but at the same time, they're fuckin ugly and that's why you don't see them. Same reason people are not rocking the new Nissan Scion xA or xB with the weird back window...it's not because people told them not to, it's because they are fuckin ugly.

Here's a twist on your words, homey. You said a couple of posts ago, who are we to decide what is ugly or not. Just like beauty, ugly is in the eyes of the beholder. And this is where web forums greatly help influence what goes on around us. Check it:

Baby J posted that wheel up. He likes it and would love to get a set. Before, though, he posts it up on IA and asks what the populace thinks about them. 80% say NO! Ugly as fuck they are. So Baby J doesn't get the wheels he likes because he doesn't want to be laughed at or poked at. This forum has just influenced him to go with what other people like and not what he likes.

See where I went with that? People, unfortunately, do care what others think on a forum. It happens all day on here and across the nation on web forums. Later, QD.
11-13-2009, 10:52 AM
GAtegs

I agree, but in your scenario, it's up to Baby J to grow a sack and get them because it is what HE likes and what HE wants to put on HIS car. Just because I and the other 80% think they are ugly doesn't mean he can't get 'em, but he DID ask for the opinion...it's up to him to decide if he wants to make his wheel decision based on what we think or what he likes.

Like I said, I am not disagreeing with anyone here...just saying it's not the web's fault...the web just made it easier.
11-13-2009, 10:58 AM
BABY J

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAtegs

I agree, but in your scenario, it's up to Baby J to grow a sack and get them because it is what HE likes and what HE wants to put on HIS car. Just because I and the other 80% think they are ugly doesn't mean he can't get 'em, but he DID ask for the opinion...it's up to him to decide if he wants to make his wheel decision based on what we think or what he likes.

Like I said, I am not disagreeing with anyone here...just saying it's not the web's fault...the web just made it easier.

I don't remem asking for an opinion. I stated an observation that there are only 4 or 5 Rotas that the masses rocks. I never cared for any else's opinion - I'm too seasoned for that. :)

But I get where you're coming from.
11-13-2009, 11:12 AM
quickdodge®

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Originally Posted by GAtegs

I agree, but in your scenario, it's up to Baby J to grow a sack and get them because it is what HE likes and what HE wants to put on HIS car. Just because I and the other 80% think they are ugly doesn't mean he can't get 'em, but he DID ask for the opinion...it's up to him to decide if he wants to make his wheel decision based on what we think or what he likes.

Like I said, I am not disagreeing with anyone here...just saying it's not the web's fault...the web just made it easier.

No disagreement here, either. I'm just using your analysis and thoughts to show how people do care what other people say on a message board. you're completely right in that Baby J should let the sack drop. But the majority of the people won't because they don't want to be laughed at.

Why?

Because they care.

+91 to you for a good discussion. Later, QD.
11-13-2009, 11:57 AM
GAtegs

So we can all agree:

1) Yes, the intArw3bZ influenced car culture, but in a way that it was going to be influenced eventually anyway...

2) People need to care less about what others think and do what they like and what makes them happy (unless of course what makes them happy is doing what others think is cool).

3) I'm kind of a cool guy.
11-13-2009, 11:58 AM
BABY J

LOL -you're kool. But only if the internet thinks so... just make a quick poll if you want the general idiotic populace to decide for you - LOL ;)
11-13-2009, 11:59 AM
quickdodge®

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Originally Posted by GAtegs

So we can all agree:

1) Yes, the intArw3bZ influenced car culture, but in a way that it was going to be influenced eventually anyway...

2) People need to care less about what others think and do what they like and what makes them happy (unless of course what makes them happy is doing what others think is cool).

3) I'm a kind of a cool guy.

Well, two out of three isn't bad, lolol. Later, QD.
11-13-2009, 12:00 PM
GAtegs

LOLOLOL
11-13-2009, 12:01 PM
GAtegs

I don't care what people think (see sig) so it's okay :-)
11-13-2009, 01:22 PM
1SICKLEX

Well the web is also good for direction. For instance, you have O.Gs that want to help people who do have questions. Take wheels for instance...if you don't know anything about wheels, the internet can help you ask people that do. It is not that you are "copying" you might want a quality wheel and don't know anything about it.

Is "copying" a bad thing? I've modeled one vehicle after a guy I admired b/c I thought it looked perfect. To be respectful I asked is it okay if I go with a very similar theme. I was young and didn't know nearly as much as I did now, so the internet helped us both out. He got to share knowledge, I got to modify in a way I felt matched my personality.

Good discussion here. :)
11-13-2009, 01:48 PM
BABY J

I think it's a great discussion.
11-13-2009, 02:45 PM
JITB

I dont mind copying other peoples ideas/style. thats the whole purpose of being on auto forums to get ideas and help from others. i dont like how the internet has turned into a popularity contest. And how it makes it ok to be closeminded. And it almost makes thinking outside the box, and going your own direction a crime.
11-13-2009, 02:48 PM
teh_mugen18

Idunno... personally, i just build what i like. :dunno:
11-13-2009, 03:18 PM
D3UC3S

^^yes! Those rotas in bronze, shake the damn trees J!

Great thread guys! I personally enjoy feedback but would never think twice to a suggestion to change what im doing. I have a civic but not because it is what is "cool"...its the car i grew up in and will alwyas be partial to them.

1983-1989: dad had a yellow civic with a black racing stripe...
1989-1994: totalled the yellow civic(me in it:eek:) and scooped a seafoam green 1300
1994-1998: dad sold the 1300 and got an eg hatchback stock..no radio..no ac...no power...
1999-present: i did the mini truck thing for a while and then went and found me a civic in 2000

Honda has been with me for life and no internet forum can change that, regardless of whats "played out" or "unoriginal". Im doin me and thats all that matters.
11-13-2009, 05:54 PM
chaseamundo

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Originally Posted by BABY J

^^ I don't. I was just there on business and hung out w/ Chase, Brandon, Mike and a lot of the B'ham guys. I'm the guy wo came up w/ the Motorvations BBQ / Dyno Day a while back.

oh ok, you know ross williams, tommy with the dc2, blake yeager or any of them?
11-13-2009, 06:16 PM
BABY J

Yeah - met them all at the SSIDE Whataburger meets - along w/ Pancake and company. Mention b18b wagovan and they will know who I am.
11-13-2009, 06:40 PM
5speed

I would have to say I'm with Baby J and QD on this one. The Rota's are pretty nice Baby J, get em. The only reasons I have posted threads about which car I should get was just for direction. I didn't have much knowledge on the 240z or SC400 (common problems/costs of parts and maintenance) but I loved the way they looked and I don't see them often around East ATL. I got hell for contemplating an SR20DET in the 240z bc it originally comes with a 6 cylinder. I honestly didn't give a fuck what others thought bc I liked the idea of a lightweight engine in it and didn't plan on have it beyond 350hp. It wouldn't have been anything new but it would have been different to things around this area. People even "threatened" me over the internet like fucking bitches over it, and I honestly didn't care. :2up:
11-13-2009, 07:09 PM
chaseamundo

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Originally Posted by BABY J

Yeah - met them all at the SSIDE Whataburger meets - along w/ Pancake and company. Mention b18b wagovan and they will know who I am.

haha damn, small worls lol
11-13-2009, 09:43 PM
CasadeWaffle

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Here's a twist on your words, homey. You said a couple of posts ago, who are we to decide what is ugly or not. Just like beauty, ugly is in the eyes of the beholder. And this is where web forums greatly help influence what goes on around us. Check it:

Baby J posted that wheel up. He likes it and would love to get a set. Before, though, he posts it up on IA and asks what the populace thinks about them. 80% say NO! Ugly as fuck they are. So Baby J doesn't get the wheels he likes because he doesn't want to be laughed at or poked at. This forum has just influenced him to go with what other people like and not what he likes.

See where I went with that? People, unfortunately, do care what others think on a forum. It happens all day on here and across the nation on web forums. Later, QD.

Basically yes :goodjob:

I personally like those wheels...and baby j speaks the truth

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