03 cobra vs. S2k who would handle better around a track.

[87 Turbo II]

Well for handling in most cases just go with the lighter car, in this case the S2000. The cobra's IRS isn't a great system from what I've heard and other than being able to house super wide tires, I see no handling advantages for the cobra. They're just too heavy. So I say S2K. But the pol/thread is worded weird. I assume you JUSt mean tha handling part, not how would they "handle a track". So if the question is about lap times in general, then I say it depends on how tight the course is, but pure handling alone, S2k, overall, Cobra has mad power.

[SicStang03]

The original question is kind of a dumb one (no offense intended) because it asks which car handles better around a track. This would mean, which car is faster ONLY through the turns in a track. The question should be, which car is faster on a track, which car is a better handling car, or which car is more nimble, etc.

Obviously the S2000 is more nimble, no getting around that. The Cobra has much more power, so it doesn't take a smart person to figure that out.

They are two completely different kinds of cars, built for completely different reasons. This is like comparing an apple to an orange here.

I voted S2000 because I used to have one and it was very fast (200 pounds reduced, 400HP/285TQ) And I've ridden in Mustangs and they feel like you're riding in a boat (I just like small, nimble cars better but it's my personal choice).

You've never ridden in a 03/04 cobra

Well for handling in most cases just go with the lighter car, in this case the S2000. The cobra's IRS isn't a great system from what I've heard and other than being able to house super wide tires, I see no handling advantages for the cobra. They're just too heavy. So I say S2K. But the pol/thread is worded weird. I assume you JUSt mean tha handling part, not how would they "handle a track". So if the question is about lap times in general, then I say it depends on how tight the course is, but pure handling alone, S2k, overall, Cobra has mad power.

Most ignorant statement of this thread ... I realize everyone has an opinion but you are basing this off what you heard? At the strip, yes, it is a poor platform if you are running street tires... but still 31 spline axels that have gotten many people well into the 10's and even 9's... No handling advantages? lol on the skidpad the s2k wins by .04... the cobra pwns at high speed slalom... The 1 second the s2k might pull in a tight corner will be shut down 15ft later

The poll is worded weird but the argument we had was that his car would beat mine at a track... stock for stock the cobra would still win... I would stop for lunch in the middle of the race and still win in my car :boobies:

[afwfjustin]

You've never ridden in a 03/04 cobra

You are correct! I don't doubt that they are better handling cars; I was just saying that most Mustangs I've ridden in (GTs and V6s from same body style) felt like donkey shit when they were turning.

I think my previous post wins the entire thread. It's worded poorly. If we're talking about which car is more nimble and a better "handling" car, it's the S2000. If we're talking about which car is faster at a track, it's the Cobra. But saying which car is better handling at a track? There are way too many different variables to really give an answer to that - and that's why we're still debating this crap

And I think that my old S2000 would destroy a Cobra even on a track - and that's with it running only on the wastegate spring and untuned for higher boost

[87 Turbo II]

You've never ridden in a 03/04 cobra




Most ignorant statement of this thread ... I realize everyone has an opinion but you are basing this off what you heard? At the strip, yes, it is a poor platform if you are running street tires... but still 31 spline axels that have gotten many people well into the 10's and even 9's... No handling advantages? lol on the skidpad the s2k wins by .04... the cobra pwns at high speed slalom... The 1 second the s2k might pull in a tight corner will be shut down 15ft later

The poll is worded weird but the argument we had was that his car would beat mine at a track... stock for stock the cobra would still win... I would stop for lunch in the middle of the race and still win in my car :boobies:

Just now replying to this, but I just wanted to say that what I said is hardly the most ignorant thing in the thread, as I was putting in "from what I heard" to show that everyhting I am saying IS in fact a guess. I am admitting to not knowing any of it for sure. And when I said "I see no handling advantages for the cobra" I was talking about in pure physics, weight, skidpad, wheelbase, etc. where I later added that the Cobra can house massive tires, so that is one major advantage.

[Bridged]

If they are both stock, it depends on the course/track it's done at. If there's alot of tight turns and not alot of straight ways I would say the S2K. But if the track is more open and like 90 angle and straight turns and just some strong turns, not many; the cobra could def put a hurt on the s2k with even drivers.

The issue here isn't the "muscle car's have shitty suspension" stuff, it basically comes done to weight and the drivers ability to throw and move that weight in the apex and out of the apex of the turns on the track, that and the gearing on the cars.

I have seen many muscle cars like mustang's and camaros ripping it up on track and scca events so don't think because Honda says the s2k comes ready for track at the dealership doesn't always hold true in the hands of a real person, but sure on paper.

A really good driver in the cobra and a normal Sunday driver in th s2k and even the smallest tightest course wont stop the good driver from coming around the bad in most cases on track and vice versa.


If your looking for a track car, test drive them both and pick which you feel is better for you. If your talking about street wise. The poor f**king deer.

My bet is on the cobra tho, even tho this question is pointless because we are not you, or the persons driving in this bench race. You have to decide which is best to you. This is like those, "WHATZ TEH MAX BOOOST I CANZ RUN ON MINES STOCK INTERNALS WITH 550CC INJECTRONS." The simple answer is every car/driver is different. Something you just got to figure out.

[DieselNuts]

Well for handling in most cases just go with the lighter car, in this case the S2000. The cobra's IRS isn't a great system from what I've heard and other than being able to house super wide tires, I see no handling advantages for the cobra. They're just too heavy. So I say S2K. But the pol/thread is worded weird. I assume you JUSt mean tha handling part, not how would they "handle a track". So if the question is about lap times in general, then I say it depends on how tight the course is, but pure handling alone, S2k, overall, Cobra has mad power.

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