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Thread: 03 cobra vs. S2k who would handle better around a track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    The poll is misleading also. Practically everybody has agreed that the S2k handles slightly better, so it would get more votes. However, the Cobra would beat it around a track because the difference in handling is not very significant while the difference in power is.
    But the difference in pwr/weight ratio is not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman View Post
    But the difference in pwr/weight ratio is not...
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    My cobra made 404 REAR WHEEL HP stock and weighed in at 3645lbs.

    S2000 makes 237 FLYWHEEL HP and weighs 2809lbs.

    Cobra=9.02lbs/hp

    S2000=11.85lbs/hp

    Remember, this comparison leans in favor of the S2k because I didn't use its actual wheel horsepower like I did with my Cobra.

    Oh, one more thing. I made 374ft.lbs of TQ.....What's that honda make?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts View Post
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    My cobra made 404 REAR WHEEL HP stock and weighed in at 3645lbs.

    S2000 makes 237 FLYWHEEL HP and weighs 2809lbs.

    Cobra=9.02lbs/hp

    S2000=11.85lbs/hp

    Remember, this comparison leans in favor of the S2k because I didn't use its actual wheel horsepower like I did with my Cobra.

    Oh, one more thing. I made 374ft.lbs of TQ.....What's that honda make?

    LOL, nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by DieselNuts View Post

    Oh, one more thing. I made 374ft.lbs of TQ.....What's that honda make?
    While paper racing is silly, the 130-ish TQ that a stock s2000 will put down is masked by the fact that it has a 4.10 final drive. Gearing multiplies TQ so it might sound low but if kept in vtec throughout the gears the car is much quicker than it would seem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman View Post
    But the difference in pwr/weight ratio is not...
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    Actually, it is. From what I was able to gather from some Google searches, the 2004 S2000 produced 237HP weighing 2835 pounds. This is 11.96 lbs/HP. On the other hand, the Cobra produces 390HP weighing in at 3664 pounds. That equals 9.39 LBS/HP, which is a pretty decent gap. Not to mention the S2000 produces 161 lbs/ft of torque while the Cobra churns 390 lbs/ft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    EDIT: Ninja'd, dammit!

    Actually, it is. From what I was able to gather from some Google searches, the 2004 S2000 produced 237HP weighing 2835 pounds. This is 11.96 lbs/HP. On the other hand, the Cobra produces 390HP weighing in at 3664 pounds. That equals 9.39 LBS/HP, which is a pretty decent gap. Not to mention the S2000 produces 161 lbs/ft of torque while the Cobra churns 390 lbs/ft.
    Nice

    Yeah, fuck pounds per HP. Lets talk pounds per FT/LB TQ.

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    LOL, nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    the S2000 produces 161 lbs/ft of torque
    Incorrect. The AP1 is about 130 and the AP2 is about 137 IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afwfjustin View Post
    Incorrect. The AP1 is about 130 and the AP2 is about 137 IIRC.
    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454 View Post
    From what I was able to gather from some Google searches...
    Either way, if it produces less torque, then that hurts the S2k argument.
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