What is "flush"
I consider flush to mean, in line with each other.
This is my definition of flush:
when the wheels and tires sit in line with the body
Now this is NOT flush to me
Is this flush to you all? Because when the wheel sticks out of the wheel well it looks ugly as shit to me. This is not flush IMO, as the wheel is not flush with the body of the car...
and when I see that it reminds me of this:
I agree. I don't know how my miata wasn't like royal flush.
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
fuck fitment. function is key.
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Where are the pics of your car faggatron?Originally Posted by Thighs
'92 C2500 6.5 Turbo Diesel | '96 240sx
we have a winner.
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my car serves no sort of function..except to be saucy
Flush- an over abused term invented by the so.cal. hard-parkers to give them something to do. It describes completely useless wheel/tire/suspension setups. So if it's technically useless..couldn't it fall under the catergory of "rice"?
02' Miata
i always wonder where it originatedFlush- an over abused term invented by the so.cal. hard-parkers to give them something to do. It describes completely useless wheel/tire/suspension setups. So if it's technically useless..couldn't it fall under the catergory of "rice"?
Mine really dosn't leave the garage. People across the street think it is a tool bench.
lol @ doppelganger he's onto something...
The whole stretched tire craze, started in europe, and a few other places across the water where they arent allowed to have their tires go outside of the fender. In order to pass inspections.. but we all know.. everyone loves wide wheels..especially on modded cars... and stretching tires made it possible. But over here and other places we do it just because.....you all giving cali too much credit
me example of flush..
your car......its needs to look like thisThe whole stretched tire craze, started in europe, and a few other places across the water where they arent allowed to have their tires go outside of the fender. In order to pass inspections.. but we all know.. everyone loves wide wheels..especially on modded cars... and stretching tires made it possible. But over here and other places we do it just because...
me example of flush..
it takes time and BIG MONEY to build a car like that.. i got 1 of them..your car......its needs to look like this
true but its not functional when your wheels are sticking out an inch past your tires
It doesn't always have to be functional. Not everyone takes their car to the track. Same discussion every time something like this comes up.
this is one of the very rare times that i will completely agree with one of your posts. i absolutely can't stand stretched tires and negative camber that is to the point where it just looks like the car has been wrecked or the upper control arms removed or something. i like a wheel that sits juuuuuuuuuuust at the fender and nothing more. it just isn't necessary.
Who knows?
agreed
Wow, I think it's been a little while since I've actually agreed with the majority of posts in a fitment related thread. I'm popping the cork on a fresh bottle of +rep.
IMO, stretch tires look horrendous. I'm all for wide wheels if they have proper tires. I just hate seeing cars where because of how "Hella flush" they are (automatic gag reflex when hearing that term), the majority of their tread touches the ground outside of the wheel well. I understand that not every car is built for performance, but the stretched tire/extreme camber trend looks like the equivalent of a birth defect. It's like someone who chooses to let their muscles atrophy because they think it looks cool.
Fortunately for euro/vip/sometimes mexican looking car fans, my opinion only matters for my own car. Do what you do, and don't give a fuck what others think. Just know that hella flush is to 2009 what street glow was to 1999.
My .02
Just know that hella flush is to 2009 what street glow was to 1999.
My .02words of wisdom
I dont even like the crazy stretch look... or bad fitting tires.. i just post pictures.. Shit went apeshit last nite...lol. AS far as a vip/euro/old shool standpoint its nothing new, and has been done that way for aloong time. BUT us AMERICANS always find a way to take shit to the extreme, and make it un attractive.
QFT
Flush is this:
It's when the wheel sticks out of the fender, but NOT the tire.
OMFG I HATE THIS NEW BULL SHIT.
Repost...damn laggy hotel connection
the acura looks badass to me, but their is a such thing as doing too much
its ugly as shit.......im all for some wide wheels and beefy tires on back(like domestics and such)
but this "euro" tire thing is terriable.
everyone has their own style, deal with it peoples!
i dont give a fuck if your car is gonna be on the track or not, it takes FUNCTIONALITY to be STREETABLE by any stretch of the imagination. if you cant turn all the way because youre tires rub your fenders, your car is not functional. if you cant make it over the mall speedbumps because youre too low and high-center, your car is NOT funtional. nowhere did i mention anything about tracking a car at all.
theres a difference between good flush-fitting wheels and being a "SoCaL" hardparking faggot.
mike, for example. your wheels sit pretty damn flush. yet your car can function perfectly as a DD or a track car or whatever you need it to be. theres certain cars that i can think of that i see at meets which are completely slammed, 0 offset wheels with tiny ass tires, etc. these people also are most likely bottoming out their shocks on any given bump in the road and scraping over crushed coke cans. FAIL.
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my car bottoms out occasionally, and i scrap damn near anything......But i drive it everyday..and all day. I had an interview today, and i couldnt even go in the parking lot because of the speedbump was as high as the bottom of my door. I had to park across the street and walk. This aint nothing new..and its not a fad. My car is perfectly functional, and plenty others that are lower than me drive their cars plenty low on a daily basis..with no real hinder on their life.
I dont think my truck really applies to this convo, but fitment means everything stays just inside the fender wells.
As far as scraping on things, I do that on purpose and it doesnt affect my life in any way. It makes me happy to see sparks flying from the back of my truck as I drive down the road.
Proper fitment is not a fad. its been around for ages. besides.. why wouldn't you want your wheels to sit right?
I just like when people are like yeah brah I scraped here and there, yeah dude my car scraped this, etc etc. When the person they are telling it to is like...........that's stupid then raise it up.
Thanks for the words Jessie. I dunno.. I mean, I scrape on large speed bumps..and not with the bumper. Having the wheels/tires pretty even with the sides of the car and not having to use -42* of camer is when sh!ts done right..to me. There is also a difference between proper and exaggerated fitment..shit like what Simon posted is bandwagon garbage. Having a bit of "stretch" to tighten up the sidewalls isn't bad either. But the over-the-top stuff is getting lame. Wide rims are for wide tires. If you can't fit them under stock bodywork...f*cking flare it and get tires that fit because narrow tires on wide rims are ummmm not so hot. I just don't get the mentality of "well, I want that deep dish wide wheel look, but I don't care to finish the look with some beefy tires". I know several people who are guilty of this and it works for them, i'm not going to rag on their cars...but in an open discussion such as this, I will voice my opinion. With that said, i'm sure not everyone thinks that the beefy 235-40/17 tires I run look to big/goofy/dumb.....
Yes, I know the Euro crew really set the "trend" off many, many years ago...but I was just having a little fun with it....since people in Cali take it to the extreme..and then claim it was their idea lol.
Here is my idea of proper fitment that is functional and looks "right" (though I call it "beefy")..235-40/17 slicks on 17x7.5 wheels that are +40 offset and -1.8* camber....no rolling of fenders needed either. I wasn't going for quality here, just representation of fitment**
02' Miata
frohawk is a picture whore. but he speaks tr00f
Unfortunately my work connection blocks 95%of internet images..s oI use my own pics when trying to show examples. I'm actually looking for other pics ATM.
OK..
this is WIN
this is not...
Again?
Gangsta fitment- running wheels that far out AND running wide tires = win
(dipstick needs to cut those ghey zipties though)
Buford Hwy fitment...
HOTNESS!!!
notness
Last edited by Doppelgänger; 08-21-2009 at 08:50 AM.
02' Miata
This should be stickied.Unfortunately my work connection blocks 95%of internet images..s oI use my own pics when trying to show examples. I'm actually looking for other pics ATM.
OK..
this is WIN
this is not...
Again?
Gangsta fitment- running wheels that far out AND running wide tires = win
(dipstick needs to cut those ghey zipties though)
Buford Hwy fitment...
HOTNESS!!!
notness
Actually the "Term" flush started out in the So Cal scene, like someone said above. Stretching tires and all that has been around alot longer. The first time I saw stretched tires was like 20 or more years ago on Lowriders. I'm sure it's been around longer than that.
The tires sticking outside of your fenders crap has been around longer as well. The whole thing used to be called the "Rottweiler look". Folks used to get 16 inch chrome wheels with huge lips and leave the car stock height and have the wheels all bulging out the side of the car. This was back in the 80's. Looked like dogshit then, still does. The only thing thats changed is that the wheels have gotten bigger.
Personally, I think stretched tires on big wheels with over fenders are gangster. But if you don't go through with the whole package, you may as well not do it at all.
Personally, I think the "Clean" look is a bunch of shitola myself, but hey.
Garage-Sixgun
If you're gonna do it, overdo it.
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lol rottweiller look, havent heard that in a mintue!
How is that flush? That's tucked. The 3rd pic needs to be spaced out 10 millimeters to be considered flush.I consider flush to mean, in line with each other.
This is my definition of flush:
when the wheels and tires sit in line with the body
Now this is NOT flush to me
http://fatlace.com/hellaflush/wp-con...2009/08/tl.jpg
Is this flush to you all? Because when the wheel sticks out of the wheel well it looks ugly as shit to me. This is not flush IMO, as the wheel is not flush with the body of the car...
and when I see that it reminds me of this:
http://dogsdoom.com/PI/ricer.jpg
Last edited by speedminded; 08-21-2009 at 05:00 PM.
More pics of Camry in OP please. It's rare to see one done right.
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