Lets all take a step back and look at things

[speedminded]

When people talk about the "scene" and "trends" and "leaders" it just makes me cringe. You guys make it sounds like high school.

People don't do anything different? I think the import scene is finally evolving to be like other car groups. Motorcycles for example. If i'm on a 2007 CBR RR and i pass a 1980 harley davidson, chances are he will wave and i'll wave back. When i had my 99 GSX-R i would pull up to a light next to people on any bike, and they would say "a damn fine day for riding inst it?" I think alot of the car people in "the scene" are WAY too competitive. they have to be prettier, more original, faster, better, cooler. more everything than the next guy. Don't get me wrong, its good to a point. You need some competition to make people push themselves. but there's just no positive atmosphere i guess is what i'm trying to say.

I guess what I'm getting that is the scene is the people, not the cars. and when you have a bunch of super-competitive DICKS, your gonna have a shit group of people who are dicks and what-not.

Thats why the only car people i tend to hang out with is other Starion/Conquests. We have an understanding that we are more of a family and we stick up for each other. Sure we have arguments and what not, it can't be hugs and kisses all the time. But, over all there just seems to be a sense in camaraderie that i don't see throughout the rest of the import scene. I guess the same goes for alot of the old school fellas. We, the old school guys, know that if we need something for our cars we have to make something work or make a complete one-off part! we can't call a company and order a motor swap or body kit or suspension package.

I'm sorry if this came off as ramblings but i do hope i got my point across. thank you to whoever actualy reads and understands this.

It completely makes sense. When I was driving both my Z32 300zx and Land Rover other owners would always wave or nod or stop and chat if I was parked. In my Integra I'd just have a moron mean mugging and revving his engine next to me lol!

That's the main reason I like being in older cars...young, or old, people seem to appreciate them more. They're happy to see something like that running and they'll tell you they had one as a kid, as their first car, or maybe their parents drove one when they were younger.

That's another reason why I like older BMW's. Nobody really wants to race you because it looks slow. It's old, it's boxy, and doesn't look like it will get anywhere in a decent amount of time...and most of them won't lol! But if I was broken down on the side of the road I would safely bet another [older] BMW owner would stop to lend a hand and I'd do the same. I'm sure the same goes with the Starion/Conquests...or they'd just want to buy it for parts

Speaking of Starions, I need a pair of seat sliders from an '87 or whatever other model is applicable.

[Just_lookin]

It completely makes sense. When I was driving both my Z32 300zx and Land Rover other owners would always wave or nod or stop and chat if I was parked. In my Integra I'd just have a moron mean mugging and revving his engine next to me lol!

That's the main reason I like being in older cars...young, or old, people seem to appreciate them more. They're happy to see something like that running and they'll tell you they had one as a kid, as their first car, or maybe their parents drove one when they were younger.

That's another reason why I like older BMW's. Nobody really wants to race you because it looks slow. It's old, it's boxy, and doesn't look like it will get anywhere in a decent amount of time...and most of them won't lol! But if I was broken down on the side of the road I would safely bet another [older] BMW owner would stop to lend a hand and I'd do the same. I'm sure the same goes with the Starion/Conquests...or they'd just want to buy it for parts

Speaking of Starions, I need a pair of seat sliders from an '87 or whatever
other model is applicable.

got thte same thing when i had my 280zx... i had older people always telling me how they had one back in the day... it just makes you feel good that your doing somethng diff... i got my 2nd 240 not cuz every one has them and not cuz i wanna drift it... i love the cars.. how they ride how you feel sitting in it the stance of the cars everything....

[batlbrandon]

It completely makes sense. When I was driving both my Z32 300zx and Land Rover other owners would always wave or nod or stop and chat if I was parked. In my Integra I'd just have a moron mean mugging and revving his engine next to me lol!

But see thats just it the current scene is looked down upon on by most old school hot rodders and the general masses because of the huge amount of ricers and dumbasses. There is no distinction between quality and garbage in those peoples eyes. That goes for the majority of people buying parts and doing work on the current cars too, no distintion between quality and garbage. Slap on some shit and run it into the ground. We that are "pouring our hearts out" are the minority unfortunately. I think the biggest difference in the old school hot rodders and the current scene is pure numbers. They had their "ricers" and we have ours but we have 100 times as many. In time the posers will fade and the die hard will remain, then the next crop will take over. We will look at their hybrids/plug-ins making 400 whp and shake our heads and say "what a turd" or "my dinosaur oil burning REAL car will blow the doors off that spark-o-matic"