True, but making something with that much power may not be his objective, and if it isnt, it wouldnt take very much money to make a Maxima a fun car to drive at all. And if making something with that much power was his objective he probably wouldve chose another platform. Seeing as how he never said big power numbers were his objective, y tell him to save for something else? Maybe there is a reason he wants to tune this car. And the VQ30DE is VERY cabale of producing higher horsepower numbers and still be reliable. Somethings will have to be changed like internals, but im sure the SHO isnt completely stock either as far as that goes. Just dont make his brother feel like he just has to be stuck with a stock, slow car, b/c thats no true at all. I do have a question though b/c im interested now lol, what mods are on the SHO?